Review Port overcome Dogs 86 - 69

[Munnez]

He deserves it, but I doubt we’d have much choice regardless.

He looked confident forward. Would be great if he carved out a niche there.

Could be a very capable medium forward who near commands a KPD to man him up. And can still apply pressure on the rebound. If he makes it could be quite a valuable asset

 

[glenashley]

Not picking on you, glen. A lot of people have said the same thing. And it is clearly true that we are severely lacking quality talls - especially in the backline. But I feel like when we draft we need to not be distracted by the problems we're having NOW. Drafting is about fixing our problems in 2 years time.

We absolutely need to address our tall defender issues. But we have plenty of young tall forwards. What we DON'T have a lot of is young midfield bulls to replace our aging midfield champions. Surely I'm not the only person who has noticed that our midfield has peaked and is now being gradually reeled in by the rest of the league. Maybe in 3 years time we won't be a team that relies on our midfield so heavily. But successful Dogs teams have relied on having a vastly superior midfield for a long long time. And I worry that if we don't draft a quality young midfielder or two, we might find our talls mature fully at a time when our midfield doesn't hold enough quality to properly supply them.

So many problems!

No you're not picking on me. I said the below comment was a quote from a fan on Facebook.... [emoji16]

 

[josh the gent]

Port flogs actually applauding Weightman's injury and hoping "it hurts"

Genuinely disgusting stuff. Classy assholes

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[Chili]

So Iv got a singing Bulldogs money box which I put a coin in each goal and a Bont bobble head.
When they lose my misses throws a cover over their heads.
Im not seeing them much this season.

 

[perro_loco]

Yeah, currently being one of the fedw clubs deciding to go with one ruck and a bit of a chop out from a few, undersized options, is going great - we’re really ahead of the game here

Having English and Martin makes a huge difference, Last year we were really awesome in the first 6 weeks because English massively helped Bruce and Naughton. Trying this combo next week will get us the four points for sure, but Bevo is a stubborn prick.

 

[Saltiga]

Umpiring was two different sets of rules depending on your guernsey. Home advantage on clear display tonight

Frees were 26 each. I understand though that when you're accustomed to receiving highly favourable preferential treatment from the umpires week in week out, it would come as a terrible shock to only receive 50% of the frees.

 

[Draft Pick]

Frees were 26 each. I understand though that when you're accustomed to receiving highly favourable preferential treatment from the umpires week in week out, it would come as a terrible shock to only receive 50% of the frees.

In the prelim last year you won your precious free kick count and we flogged you by 12 goals.

In the game in 2016 at AO you won your precious free kick count convincingly and we beat you.

In the last round of the H&A round last year Port clearly had the best of the umpiring and you won your precious free kick count again, and you only won by under a goal.

Point being the free kick count is for simpletons to concern themselves with.

 

[Del165892]

Frees were 26 each. I understand though that when you're accustomed to receiving highly favourable preferential treatment from the umpires week in week out, it would come as a terrible shock to only receive 50% of the frees.

If you think that having an equal free kick count means that the umpiring was fair, then you should ask your mother how many times you were dropped on your head as a child.

 

[Fossie 32]

 

[Fossie 32]

Frees were 26 each. I understand though that when you're accustomed to receiving highly favourable preferential treatment from the umpires week in week out, it would come as a terrible shock to only receive 50% of the frees.

Congrats to all the tarps except you

 

[Philthy1]

I truly do not understand why anyone is even bothering, even me, to waste their time writing about the umpiring.

Port's 21 marks inside forward 50 from 44 entries made the difference.

 

[Doggy]

I truly do not understand why anyone is even bothering, even me, to waste their time writing about the umpiring.

Port's 21 marks inside forward 50 from 44 entries made the difference.

Not sure if serious.

Regardless of other factors, it's bad enough to have inconsistency from game to game but inconsistency during the same game is pathetic

 

[Philthy1]

Not sure if serious.

Regardless of other factors, it's bad enough to have inconsistency from game to game but inconsistency during the same game is pathetic

Absolutely serious. The umpiring had zero impact on the outcome of that game.

 

[Doggy]

Absolutely serious. The umpiring had zero impact on the outcome of that game.

You're completely missing the point

If you can genuinely say you think there was consistency during that game you don't understand the rules the way you may think you do

And this is coming from someone with plenty of years of senior umpiring

 

[Next Waiting]

With Screws and plates 3 to 4 weeks

Unless you're Lin Jong, in which case it's only 2.

 

[Proffessor]

Also fun fact, Cordys had 6 pressure acts in both his last two games. Jamarra hasn’t had that few in a game all year.

So he doesn’t even bring that over Jamarra. His only advantage is he competes in about 10 ruck contests which frankly at this point I don’t care who does them - the difference between Dunks & Cordy taking the ruck is very minor.

Cordy offers nothing to this forward line, he doesn’t have a forwards bone in his body and is a net negative to the team there.

Build around Naughty, Buku & Jamarra until Bruce returns - ffs the season is done there is no salvaging it, pleaseeee just give this 4-5 weeks and see how it goes.

Keath, Gardner and Schache every week down back (until O’Brien returns). Every week.

The same 3 talls down back and up front every. Week.

The anti-Cordy campaign on this forum is truly ridiculous. Regardless of his position/role he gets blamed for our losses apparently.

Whilst everyone was calling for Cordy to go back into defence following the injures to TOB and Gardner, did the thought cross your mind that the reason our Coaches didn't do this until very late, was that he was being very effective in role they had asked him to play and that they didn't want that to change?

I guess not.

I suggest you open your mind and look for other areas where things went wrong occasionally.

 

[Mr. Walker]

Unless you're Lin Jong, in which case it's only 2.

We used our number 1 trick of tapeing the other shoulder with Lin and it may not work again. I’d go with tapeing Cody’s right knee and he can play next week

 

[The Inbetweener]

The anti-Cordy campaign on this forum is truly ridiculous. Regardless of his position/role he gets blamed for our losses apparently.

Whilst everyone was calling for Cordy to go back into defence following the injures to TOB and Gardner, did the thought cross your mind that the reason our Coaches didn't do this until very late, was that he was being very effective in role they had asked him to play and that they didn't want that to change?

I guess not.

I suggest you open your mind and look for other areas where things went wrong occasionally.

How was he being effective in the role they asked him to play? Genuinely interested.

 

[Philthy1]

You're completely missing the point

If you can genuinely say you think there was consistency during that game you don't understand the rules the way you may think you do

And this is coming from someone with plenty of years of senior umpiring

I agree that there was inconsistency. But it had no impact on the outcome of that game. So it doesn’t matter if there was.

The review of the game this week will be focused on how many times they had one on one marking contests inside their forward 50 and how those defending might do a better job of spoiling. Along with how the team Defence broke down to create the one on ones. In addition, what the midfield needs to do to create more congestion to stop the relatively fluid entries. How our entires into forward 50 were in congestion.

In addition, the plans for this week will look at Stefan Martin’s decline and what we can do to maximize what he can bring or if we would be better served with Sweet in the team.

We had Williams and R Smith get caught holding the ball when they went to play on and decided against it. Port’s pressure created that by clogging up options.

That’s all stuff we can control and does make a difference. Umpiring inconsistency is at the absolute margins at best. I am not losing any sleep over umpiring.




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[Doggy]

I agree that there was inconsistency. But it had no impact on the outcome of that game. So it doesn’t matter if there was.

The review of the game this week will be focused on how many times they had one on one marking contests inside their forward 50 and how those defending might do a better job of spoiling. Along with how the team Defence broke down to create the one on ones. In addition, what the midfield needs to do to create more congestion to stop the relatively fluid entries. How our entires into forward 50 were in congestion.

In addition, the plans for this week will look at Stefan Martin’s decline and what we can do to maximize what he can bring or if we would be better served with Sweet in the team.

We had Williams and R Smith get caught holding the ball when they went to play on and decided against it. Port’s pressure created that by clogging up options.

That’s all stuff we can control and does make a difference. Umpiring inconsistency is at the absolute margins at best. I am not losing any sleep over umpiring.




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The way each game is adjudicated doesn't matter.

Ok then

 

[LondonBulldog]

The anti-Cordy campaign on this forum is truly ridiculous. Regardless of his position/role he gets blamed for our losses apparently.

Whilst everyone was calling for Cordy to go back into defence following the injures to TOB and Gardner, did the thought cross your mind that the reason our Coaches didn't do this until very late, was that he was being very effective in role they had asked him to play and that they didn't want that to change?

I guess not.

I suggest you open your mind and look for other areas where things went wrong occasionally.

So what, the game is live and situations change, O’Brien injured, Gardiner half injured someone had to go back to give support. We lost the game in the period, 4 goals in 20 minutes. These are times when coaches need to be on their game. I’m a Bevo fan but I thought it was poor and the stats back it up, too many easy marks inside 50. Wasnt the only reason we lost I know that but they could have went very defensive and aim for a counter attack goal. We lost so whatever we did didn’t work. On to next week


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[Dogs_r_barking]

Frees were 26 each. I understand though that when you're accustomed to receiving highly favourable preferential treatment from the umpires week in week out, it would come as a terrible shock to only receive 50% of the frees.

Yeah because the Bulldogs are such a big powerful club, they have influence over the umpires. Weirdo.

Can you explain how that Shiite show of a preliminary final when your asse was handed to you on a plate, playing at home, nicely rested in front of a home crowd, against a team that had played on the road for the last four weeks, that you won the free kick count. Face it your mob are just no good.

Considering our outs you should have thumped us.

 

[Philthy1]

The way each game is adjudicated doesn't matter.

Ok then

How many free kicks did we miss out on or give away because of the inconsistency? Maybe 5. Are you seriously claiming 5 free kicks changed the outcome of that game?


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[Doggy]

How many free kicks did we miss out on or give away because of the inconsistency? Maybe 5. Are you seriously claiming 5 free kicks changed the outcome of that game?


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Where was I saying it changed the outcome? You're the one making the claim.

It's far too simple to say it would or it wouldn't.

Giving the umpires a pass in any game based on whether you think it influenced the result or not is just stupid.

If it is incorrect, it is incorrect.

By the way, umpires certainly influence results whether they mean to or not. They are but one factor. Saying otherwise is naive

 

[Philthy1]

Where was I saying it changed the outcome? You're the one making the claim.

It's far too simple to say it would or it wouldn't.

Giving the umpires a pass in any game based on whether you think it influenced the result or not is just stupid.

If it is incorrect, it is incorrect.

By the way, umpires certainly influence results whether they mean to or not. They are but one factor. Saying otherwise is naive

I didn’t say you claimed the umpiring changed the result. I am saying it didn’t.

The things we can control are worth investing time and energy in. Fretting about whether the Doc free kick for holding the ball was correct or not when Port had a similar situation a couple of minutes later is a fruitless waste of energy.

When the game ended on Friday night I was frustrated that we had players slip over continually when Port didn’t. That Smith and Williams were caught holding the ball trying to play on and changing their minds. Allowed Port to dictate terms and take so many one on one forward 50 marks. That it seemed so easy for them to get the ball inside 50 when we struggled. That we have no genuine second ruck to English now that Martin is in decline. That we didn’t get a big bodied KPD in the off season.


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