MRP / Trib. 2022 - MRO Chook Lotto - Carlton Tribunal News & Reports

[Blue and Silver]

Honestly the league needs to get serious around out of play striking of any variety.

If you strike an opponent out of play that's got to be at least two weeks, to the head adds another etc.

Can't be letting the juniors think they're hard hitting guys off the ball

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[RPCB]

Just saw that the league actually apologised to Lance Franklin because AFL legal counsel Andrew Woods had the audacity to say, “There’s kids watching, there’s families watching, it’s cowardly behaviour.”

In response the apology was, “There are no cowardly players in the AFL, let alone Lance Franklin," an AFL statement read. Lance Franklin is a champion of our game. Legal counsel assisting the tribunal used his own words to describe the circumstances of the strike on Trent Cotchin

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Trent Cotchin

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34

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185cm

Wt

86kg

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M/F

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23.4

5star

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13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

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1.0

3star

, namely that Mr Cotchin was reasonably not expecting to be struck by Mr Franklin. Trent Cotchin

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Trent Cotchin

Age

34

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

is a premiership captain and one of the most respected leaders in the competition.”

So in conclusion, don’t call out cowardly acts even if you are saying that a kid watching the cowardly act might copy it with his or her friends at school. Calling cowardly acts cowardly acts might offend adult champions of the game.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Cowardly apologetic to cowards?

 

[Bletch]

Just saw that the league actually apologised to Lance Franklin because AFL legal counsel Andrew Woods had the audacity to say, “There’s kids watching, there’s families watching, it’s cowardly behaviour.”

In response the apology was, “There are no cowardly players in the AFL, let alone Lance Franklin," an AFL statement read. Lance Franklin is a champion of our game. Legal counsel assisting the tribunal used his own words to describe the circumstances of the strike on Trent Cotchin, namely that Mr Cotchin was reasonably not expecting to be struck by Mr Franklin. Trent Cotchin is a premiership captain and one of the most respected leaders in the competition.”

So in conclusion, don’t call out cowardly acts even if you are saying that a kid watching the cowardly act might copy it with his or her friends at school. Calling cowardly acts cowardly acts might offend adult champions of the game.

AFL: "There are no cowardly players in the AFL..."

Luke Parker:

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Won’t happen but intentional and sever to cause harm = 3 to 4 weeks. Umpire did his job as well and reported him on the spot. When was the last time that happened? Will kill my fantasy team but such acts should not be tolerated.
The media are already playing it down however.....amazing.

Wouldn't have thought anything more than 2 weeks myself.

It was reckless and idiotic, but hardly malicious.

 

[thylacine60]

you don't head butt someone in the face in a non-malicious way, fuddy........that's like respectfully kicking someone in the head..........

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

you don't head butt someone in the face in a non-malicious way, fuddy........that's like respectfully kicking someone in the head..........

I think it was more of a brain fade from Smith (which doesn't mean he shouldn't go unpunished) than any intent to actually hurt 2E.

He needs to be better than that (am
sure Bevo would have had a stern word to him afterwards) and a couple of weeks off seems the right penalty to me, he isn't really known as a dirty player/history of thuggery, so I take that into account too..

 

[thylacine60]

he'll get two - and some story about a difficult upbringing will bring it down to one - then his visits to the children's hospital will reduce it to a fine - then his importance to afl marketing will be brought up and he'll walk away with three brownlow votes and a weekend in the otways...........

 

[I bleed Blue]

You are not even allowed to headbutt in the UFC.

A mixed martial arts sport where you can punch, elbow, kick, knee and try to choke your opponent unconscious.

If it's deemed too dangerous of an act for a combat sport. It certainly has no place happening on a footy field.

Stamp it out AFL. Show it won't be tolerated.

 

[thylacine60]

it don't look good if you run the toby ruler over it..........

 

[OldBlueFan]

It has to be one of the most uncontrolled acts of aggression doesn't it? Get it wrong, or victim turns/moves their head, you could easily fracture an eye socket, break their nose ... or worse.

 

[DangerousD]

By not punishing these not cowardly acts suffiecently, the AFL is opening itself up to the possibility of far uglier incidents. It still surprises me how many times players are clearly punched or head butted, to then exaggerate contact rather than retaliate.

What happens if ZT just punches Smith in the face after being head butted? Cotchin cracking Franklin in the face straight after?

Credit to the players for keeping it together.

 

[Blue and Silver]

You are not even allowed to headbutt in the UFC.

A mixed martial arts sport where you can punch, elbow, kick, knee and try to choke your opponent unconscious.

If it's deemed too dangerous of an act for a combat sport. It certainly has no place happening on a footy field.

Stamp it out AFL. Show it won't be tolerated.

This is correct. Head butting is a really quick way to rearrange facial features, especially against a grounded opponent.

Some people thought Tuohy overreacted, but I reckon Smith got the nerve in the eyebrow, that mfer hurts

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[Funk]

The AFL really make me laugh.

The PLOW got 1 week last year for contesting a mark.

But a head butt gets 2 weeks.

ridiculous!!!!!!

 

[BlueJet]

I'm not sure why people confused dirty or thuggish acts for cowardice.
Neither Buddy or Smith were shitting themselves at the time of lashing out.

 

[ESKIE]

he'll get two - and some story about a difficult upbringing will bring it down to one - then his visits to the children's hospital will reduce it to a fine - then his importance to afl marketing will be brought up and he'll walk away with three brownlow votes and a weekend in the otways...........

You forgot he agrees to shave his head for charity

 

[JustaBattler]

It is not a 'Redfern Kiss' unless a nose is flattened - anything else is a nothing more than a love tap.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Ben Ainsworth

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Ben Ainsworth

Age

26

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178cm

Wt

77kg

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M/F

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14.1

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.3

2star

D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

is cleared of wrongdoing after hitting Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

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Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

in the head leaving him concussed. A football action.

 

[SBYM]

he'll get two - and some story about a difficult upbringing will bring it down to one - then his visits to the children's hospital will reduce it to a fine - then his importance to afl marketing will be brought up and he'll walk away with three brownlow votes and a weekend in the otways...........

I thought this gag was about him escaping punishment??

 

[carlton_99]

Ben Ainsworth is cleared of wrongdoing after hitting Ben McKay in the head leaving him concussed. A football action.

Similar finding to Harbrow's bump on Gibbons a few years back. Terrible decision

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Similar finding to Harbrow's bump on Gibbons a few years back. Terrible decision

I was just thinking about Plowman, Stocker and Young being suspended for actions I would describe as footy actions. This one is a shocker.

 

[ferrisb]

I was just about to write this off as a football incident, just unlucky that McKay was sliding in from the side at an awkward height.

But I think I detected a little lift of Ainsworth's arm/elbow at the right/wrong time... Hard to tell from angles, but I THINK it was deliberate. Maybe.

Ultimately the MRO ruled there was no way the 179cm Ainsworth could collect the 201cm McKay high.... Pretty sure....

 

[I bleed Blue]

I was just about to write this off as a football incident, just unlucky that McKay was sliding in from the side at an awkward height.

But I think I detected a little lift of Ainsworth's arm/elbow at the right/wrong time... Hard to tell from angles, but I THINK it was deliberate. Maybe.

Ultimately the MRO ruled there was no way the 179cm Ainsworth could collect the 201cm McKay high.... Pretty sure....

Agree.

Pretty sure he decided to "bump" or raise his elbow into McKays head at the last second.

 

[Bryce Bubbles]

You are not even allowed to headbutt in the UFC.

A mixed martial arts sport where you can punch, elbow, kick, knee and try to choke your opponent unconscious.

If it's deemed too dangerous of an act for a combat sport. It certainly has no place happening on a footy field.

Stamp it out AFL. Show it won't be tolerated.

**** the UFC. What a piece of shit sport that encourages beating the **** outta someone. How anyone can watch this is mind boggling.

 

[Mr_Plow]

Agree.

Pretty sure he decided to "bump" or raise his elbow into McKays head at the last second.

Was certainly looking for contact. Seemed like he went for a second bump immediately after the hit but then realised the other NM player was too far away to bump.