List Mgmt. 2023 National Draft prospects

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Fat Jesus said:
No idea mate. I watched some VFL highlights a few days ago. Edward is seriously fast. 😳
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Well okay, thanks for that! I have no idea what Ed/Edward's pace has to do with the family connection question, but suspect you just wanted to get in another shameless plug for your boy!!

I really rate him too, BTW, and think he'll be a wonderful player for us! Missing a game with Covid, then having a couple of relatively quiet games after that, probably set him back a bit, but I'm hoping we can give him a run in the senior team soon enough. Once he gets there, he just might be good enough to stay put, but with the team doing so well finding an opening is the tricky bit at the moment.
 
sr36 said:
Reads like this is the no longer viewed as the super draft like it was being spruiked as at last draft time
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Every Year around Draft Time you hear how the next Draft suppose to be Better
 

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Apex36 said:
It pisses me off that GC have not one but two first round KPP prospects available through their academy… meanwhile clubs that are desperate for young KPP talent are robbed of the chance at them if they’re in their academy and in the top 40.
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Not worried. We're well ahead of any club in terms of blokes acquired through having priority access. Particularly as it's GC who won't get FS for a fair few years. Brisbane and Sydney having the best of both worlds, however, is really dodgy.
 
sr36 said:
I believed this one as it felt like clubs were more reluctant to trade future picks, although I may have imagined that based on hearing it was a super draft.
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There was definitely talk of trying to keep picks year, you are right about that. Seems like a better idea on the strength comes after the championships where the recruiters come up with their talent tiers, I heard Jason McCartney talking about this the other day. Things can change, even last years draft, at the time there wasn't a lot of fanfare about the strength, but if you look at it 13 rounds in it looks pretty good so far. Plenty of guys in the top ten look like guns already and later first round picks like Weddle and Michelanny are looking good.

Hopefully our boys are examples as welll. Allan could be anything and while I'm not sure Ryan has a particularly high ceiling, I reckon he's probably the most likely to make an AFL career out of all our kids. His reading of the play and composure looks clear AFL standard.
 
Jen2310 said:

Daniel Curtin​

WA, key defender/forward, 195cm, 92kg
Curtin is the best key defender in a draft class lacking those types – but some believe he projects as a third tall. Part of his appeal is his versatility, given he started 2022 as a forward, was the best afield as a defender in the Futures game on AFL grand final day, and showed promise as a midfielder this season. Played down back for the AFL Academy.
He is the leading Western Australian prospect, but recruiters think he needs a strong championships.
Lockyer’s take: “Was curtailed by injury last year, so he missed a heap of footy, but played particularly well in the Futures game. He is versatile, and his strengths are his decision-making and marking.”

Zane Duursma​

Victoria Country, forward/mid, 189cm, 79kg
Duursma’s brother Xavier and sister Yasmin are on Port Adelaide’s AFL and AFLW lists, respectively, while younger sibling Willem is tipped to be drafted in two years’ time. He is a top-three contender and could go as early as No.2. Joined Harley Reid as the only bottom-age players to make the Talent League team of the year in 2022.

Talent scouts want him to increase his work-rate and use his elite running capacity to develop as a midfielder, but love him as a forward.

Lockyer’s take: “Zane’s a smooth mover who competes well in the air, then can clean up at ground level. His finishing by hand and foot is excellent. Most of his work until now has been as a forward, but he’s developing his midfield craft, and, hopefully, we will see him spend more time there.”


Mitch Edwards​

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WA, ruck, 205cm, 86kg
There are shades of Tim English and Brodie Grundy in how Edwards plays, but the consensus was it would take a bold club to use a top-10 selection on a skinny ruckman – and he might be a safer choice if you have multiple high picks.

That could change if he performs well at the championships. At the same time, there is plenty of confidence he has a decade-plus-long career ahead of him.

Lockyer’s take: “Mitch is an athletic ruckman who can push forward, and he’s a great competitor. The thing clubs love about Mitch is he’s tall but his work-rate and willingness to get involved at ground level is very good.”


Colby McKercher​

Allies/Tasmania, mid, 182cm, 72kg
One of the biggest risers, to the point he is a likely top-10 selection. McKercher has not had fewer than 31 disposals in any of his Talent League matches, and shone with 27 touches against South Australia last weekend.

He runs hard, wants the ball in his hands, and some think he would be playing AFL games now if he was on a list.

Lockyer’s take: “Colby has a terrific turn of speed and agility – he gets the ball and bursts away. He’s also one of those players who somehow keeps finding the ball, so he’s a pretty exciting prospect.”


Ashton Moir​

SA, forward/wing, 188cm, 84kg
One of the most polarising prospects. Moir’s talent is tantalising, but his stocks have taken a hit in 2023 after he was rated as a potential top-five pick in some quarters at the end of last season.
A hip injury has not helped his cause, but recruiters want to see more from him, including last week’s championships opener. They are still enamoured with his brilliance.
Lockyer’s take: “Ashton is dangerous all the time, whether the ball’s on the ground or in the air. His ability to impact the game in either area is terrific, his skills are good, and he’s a really powerful athlete. He’s carried a bit of an injury, but we’re hoping he can show what he’s got at the championships.”

Connor O’Sullivan​

Victoria Country, key defender/forward, 198cm, 92kg
A raw prospect who will take time to develop at the next level. His running ability – especially for his size – appeals to AFL clubs, as does being able to play at both ends.

He has shown improvement this year, but recruiters want to see more from him. They believe the lack of quality talls in this year’s draft, as well as at the top level, will work in his favour. Projects as a mid-teens selection at this stage.

Lockyer’s take: “Connor can play as a tall back or forward. He has terrific endurance, and his decision-making and contest work are excellent. He’s played mainly as a key back, but he can go forward as well.”


Ethan Read​

Allies/Gold Coast Suns academy, ruck/forward, 202cm, 87kg
Read is roaring up the draft order, in large part because of his running capacity and follow-up work, which reminds some recruiters of premiership Demon, and now Docker, Luke Jackson.
His ruckwork is still coming along, but he is showing he can be effective as a forward as well. Talent scouts believe Gold Coast will pay a high price for him, somewhere around the top 10.
Lockyer’s take: “He competes well in the ruck and the air, but his ability to run up and down the ground is what sets him apart from the other talls. He’s the one with the tank.”

Harley Reid​

Victoria Country, mid/forward, 185cm, 85kg
The best prospect in this year’s crop. The Dustin Martin comparisons – he, too, boasts a fearsome fend-off, and can play midfield and forward – have been around for a while, and he is considered more advanced than Christian Petracca at the same age.
The knock on Reid is that he still needs to build a better engine to be an on-ball force at the highest level, but he is expected to make an immediate impact in attack while he develops that.
Lockyer’s take: “Harley’s demonstrated that he can make a significant impact in any area of the ground. He played predominantly as a mid-forward last year, then played for Vic Country as a high half-back – and he made the All-Australian team.
“He loves to compete, loves the contest, and makes really good decisions. Harley’s tackled head-on any challenge placed in front of him.”

Jake Rogers​

Allies/Gold Coast Suns academy, mid, 172cm, 68kg
Too small, you say? Recruiters don’t think so. They pointed to Lachie Neale and Brent Harvey, while another believes he has a bit of Touk Miller about him.
There is an acceptance that he will spend time as a forward at AFL level, on top of his midfield minutes. However, opinions differed on whether he would attract a top-10 bid. Rogers ticks many boxes: professional, great kid, consistently strong performer, and a team-first attitude.

Lockyer’s take: “His appetite to work, compete, tackle, and chase is excellent, and when he does get his hands on the ball – he’s clean and exciting. He’s developing really well, and particularly his last few weeks have been terrific. He just keeps turning up at the contest, which is a coach’s dream.”


Ryley Sanders​

Allies/Tasmania, mid, 186cm, 85kg
Recruiters are in unison: Sanders is the most in-form midfielder in this year’s class, and on track to comfortably be a top-10 selection. He has impressed with his improved fitness and playing a more selfless role.

One talent scout said his performances could not be faulted, including gathering 35 disposals against South Australia last weekend. Sanders’ father, Adam, is an experienced coach in Tasmania.

Lockyer’s take: “Ryley got a taste with the Allies last year, and was in the AFL Academy as a bottom-ager. His ability to keep finding the footy is a strength of his, and he makes really good decisions and is composed under pressure. He does a lot of stuff really well, and the numbers he’s putting up are amazing.”


Jed Walter​

Allies/Gold Coast Suns academy, key forward, 197cm, 91kg
The widely held belief is he would be the second or third player off the board – behind Reid – if he was not attached to Gold Coast. He might still be if he maintains his red-hot form from the championships’ opener, where he won 17 disposals, had eight scoring shots, and took nine marks.

Walter’s physicality and competitiveness are highly regarded, but his defensive abilities for a key forward also earned rave reviews.

Lockyer’s take: “His power and acceleration in offence and defence are excellent. We saw his willingness to compete in the air for the Allies at the weekend. It doesn’t matter what is in front of him – if the ball is anywhere near him, he will launch at it.”


Nick Watson​

Victoria Metro, forward, 170cm, 67kg
A bums-on-seats future star already being compared with small-forward greats such as Eddie Betts and Stephen Milne. Recruiters expect him to one day be the best at his position. There are zero concerns about Watson’s height, and he is a contender to be the first player taken after Reid.
He spent time at half-back and in the midfield this year, but projects as a forward who could make centre-bounce cameos, given his smarts and power.
Lockyer’s take: “Your eyes get drawn to him, and he is very exciting to watch. He has an unbelievable turn of speed, really good agility, and is really powerful. He’s got a really exciting array of skills by hand and foot, and he’s pencilled in at the moment as a high half-forward, which is a really difficult role to play.”

Darcy Wilson​

Victoria Country, wing/forward, 185cm, 73kg
Wilson oozes class and excitement and is blessed with a wonderful mix of speed and endurance. Does his best work with Sherrin in hand, and his marking is also a strength, but he needs to improve his contest work, which was a consistent comment from talent scouts. That feature of his game means he, too, is polarising, with some recruiters loving him and others not so much. Some would like him to use his voice more during games as well.
Lockyer’s take: “Darcy Wilson’s gut running, ability to cover the ground, and break lines when he has the ball is excellent. He’s a good ball-user, really damaging, and is certainly one to watch over the next little period.”

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Rusty Beam said:
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AFL Draft June Power Rankings: Familiar footy names rocket up the board

In the June edition of the Draft Power Rankings for 2023, a number of familiar AFL names are rising up the board, with a brother of a Port player, and a nephew of a premiership Tiger impressing in recent weeks, according to Jasper Chellappah.
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Hard to imagine the Suns can land all of those 3x top 15 academy players. Where do they get the points to match on them all? Would our 1st rounder and Carlton's 2nd be enough to prise their 1st rounder out of them?
 
Mollythedolly said:
Hard to imagine the Suns can land all of those 3x top 15 academy players. Where do they get the points to match on them all? Would our 1st rounder and Carlton's 2nd be enough to prise their 1st rounder out of them?
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They'd find the points if they had to. They would struggle to be allowed to have all three if.
1. they make finals
2. They all go in the top 20.

Likely one of them falls (read?) outside the first round.
 
Mollythedolly said:
Hard to imagine the Suns can land all of those 3x top 15 academy players. Where do they get the points to match on them all? Would our 1st rounder and Carlton's 2nd be enough to prise their 1st rounder out of them?
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You can only match on 2 or the 3 if they are 1st round and they make finals
 
Mollythedolly said:
Hard to imagine the Suns can land all of those 3x top 15 academy players. Where do they get the points to match on them all? Would our 1st rounder and Carlton's 2nd be enough to prise their 1st rounder out of them?
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They've got a lot of picks already. They've got a first, two seconds and three thirds - plus a heap of 4ths. They might be trying to consolidate upwards more than trading down, so they don't need a heap of list spaces to take all the points into the draft.
 
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sr36 said:
They've got a lot of picks already. They've got a first, two seconds and three thirds - plus a heap of 4ths. They might be trying to consolidate upwards more than trading down, so they don't need a heap of list spaces to take all the points into the draft.
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They do, but I just can’t see them freeing up enough list spots to activate them, or clubs being too interested in trading a 1st or 2nd rounder for their late picks. On the other hand, swapping their 1st for our 1st and Carlton’s 2nd gains them (currently) 200-250 points in the 1st 2 rounds which is where they want them if they’re not activating the later picks. They could even sacrifice some of those later picks in the deal given I think they’re unlikely to even use them and it might entice a suitor.

I think they’ll also look to swap some of those 2023 picks into 2024.

And all of that is just on current standings. They could end up with even more picks if they lose a player through trade.

I guess they could always just keep their 1st and use it to match as another option.
 
Mollythedolly said:
They do, but I just can’t see them freeing up enough list spots to activate them, or clubs being too interested in trading a 1st or 2nd rounder for their late picks. On the other hand, swapping their 1st for our 1st and Carlton’s 2nd gains them (currently) 200-250 points in the 1st 2 rounds which is where they want them if they’re not activating the later picks. They could even sacrifice some of those later picks in the deal given I think they’re unlikely to even use them and it might entice a suitor.

I think they’ll also look to swap some of those 2023 picks into 2024.

And all of that is just on current standings. They could end up with even more picks if they lose a player through trade.

I guess they could always just keep their 1st and use it to match as another option.
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Are there other teams with highly rated father sons or academy kids? Gold Coasts hand has them well placed to trade upwards with another team who values points this year.
 
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