Game Day Round 15: Collingwood vs. Adelaide, MCG Sun 25 June 1:10pm

[neilk]

He'll have to prove his fitness. Has a couple main sessions to do that.

 

[thommo_legend]

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He will play, never going to go hard first session of the week

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I don’t get the constant advocacy for dumping Johnson for Kreuger.
Kreuger has looked lucky, rather than controlled and deliberate in how he approaches the fwd craft.
His aggression is definitely a positive, but his blind leaping at unmarkable kicks shows a lack of team first discipline.
Until he can develop discipline and a team first approach I’d be inclined to let him play VFL.
Let him build his game there, and develop some more confidence and cogency in his fwd play and then we’ll know he’s ready.

Johnson was clearly hampered by the bad cork he coped against WC, so he should be forgiven for his last performance.

Was he clearly hampered or did he just not appreciate the pressure of a big game against a top team? Or perhaps I am just being a joy killer again. Personally, I'd be adding Kreuger but not at the expense of Johnson. Haven't really thought through who goes out, but I'd keep Johnson.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

McInnes is 194cm and 87kgs according to AFL tables, Kreuger 196 & 88. Just saying.

I personally wouldn’t be rushing Kreuger but that change is hardly going to make us top heavy relative to the KB game.

McInnes should be dropped. Kreuger can take his place. If McInnes is 194cm, he doesn't seem to play to that height on the field.

 

[The Phantom]

That one wouldn’t actually surprise me because Kreuger has a lean body shape and McInnes has built his body up since joining us, but yeah it seems unlikely.

Kreugers head is also strangely too narrow and small for his shoulders and body.
Forceps birth?
Maybe that’s why he’s not weightier.

 

[legendstatus]

with no Mcstay and looking like no Elliott i would leave AJ & Reef in this week and basically tell them its up to them to keep their spot.

Markov plays full game either AFL or VFL. Sub Ginni or Harrison and the other plays

In Ginni
Out Harrison

Sub Harrison or Markov

How uninspiring!

 

[domus]

with no Mcstay and looking like no Elliott i would leave AJ & Reef in this week and basically tell them its up to them to keep their spot.

Markov plays full game either AFL or VFL. Sub Ginni or Harrison and the other plays

In Ginni
Out Harrison

Sub Harrison or Markov

It was meant to be one week and now it's morphing into a month. What is going on?

 

[neilk]

PLAYER	INJURY	ESTIMATED RETURN
Charlie Dean	Foot	Season
Jamie Elliott	Shoulder	Test
Jeremy Howe 38 Jeremy Howe Age 34 Ht 190cm Wt 86kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 17.0 4star K 11.2 4star HB 5.7 4star M 6.4 5star T 2.1 4star MG 318.1 4star D 21.5 5star K 16.5 5star HB 5.0 3star M 6.5 5star T 2.0 3star MG 433.3 5star D 15.2 4star K 9.0 4star HB 6.2 4star M 6.8 5star T 1.6 4star	Forearm	TBC
Dan McStay	Finger	TBC
Joe Richards	Hamstring	Test
Steele Sidebottom 22 Steele Sidebottom Age 33 Ht 184cm Wt 86kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 27.4 5star K 14.1 5star HB 13.3 5star M 5.5 5star T 3.7 5star CL 3.2 5star D 24.0 5star K 12.0 5star HB 12.0 5star M 4.5 4star T 4.3 5star CL 2.3 4star D 31.6 5star K 14.4 5star HB 17.2 5star M 4.2 4star T 4.2 5star CL 6.0 5star	Knee	1-2 weeks
Updated: June 20, 2023

Early prognosis​

McStay has been ruled out of Sunday's game against Adelaide and will miss a few more weeks after suffering an infection in the finger he had surgery on back in April. Elliott has missed the past two games due to a shoulder injury and will need to prove his fitness this week. Sidebottom and Howe are both closing in on returns. – Josh Gabelich

 

[Jen2310]

Howe —




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[stormskye]

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Many have forgotten how good this guy is. Absolute vital cog in any flag chance we have

 

[Piesinmyeyes]

Howie!
Another piece in our wonderful puzzle

 

[Soaring Magpie]

Don’t rush Jezza, massive bonus to get him back in on the run to September.

 

[eyeroller]

Howe —




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I love that he used getting tackled by Beau in match sim as an indicator for readiness to return haha

 

[Piesinmyeyes]

I love that he used getting tackled by Beau in match sim as an indicator for readiness to return haha

Haha Beau the ultimate wrecking ball…

 

[Frankie23]

Howe through the VFL surely

 

[Jen2310]

Who comes out for howe from the backline? Tough selection

 

[hellfire]

Who comes out for howe from the backline? Tough selection

Call me crazy, but I’d consider dropping Cameron for Howe. Cox to ruck full time, Frampton to chop out and otherwise play forward to take pressure off Mihocek/Johnson (he would also be a contingency swing man if height is needed down back). I feel like this would give us better mobility and flexibility.

I think there is almost no chance it happens, though, probably because it has no chance of working and I’m too dumb to see it.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Call me crazy, but I’d consider dropping Cameron for Howe. Cox to ruck full time, Frampton to chop out and otherwise play forward to take pressure off Mihocek/Johnson (he would also be a contingency swing man if height is needed down back). I feel like this would give us better mobility and flexibility.

I think there is almost no chance it happens, though, probably because it has no chance of working and I’m too dumb to see it.

Howe needs a week or two in the VFL.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I can’t believe Howe could return this week. Incredible recovery. He really is a good bone healer!

Would definitely bring him in if possible and move Maynard up the field.

 

[Jen2310]

Howe needs a week or two in the VFL.

The fact they are asking the AFL for permission for the sleeve for this week, sounds like straight in. But we'll see.

 

[stormskye]

The fact they are asking the AFL for permission for the sleeve for this week, sounds like straight in. But we'll see.

If he plays this week that’s come out of nowhere! let’s hope so

 

[Jen2310]

If he plays this week that’s come out of nowhere! let’s hope so

for sure.
Well, he did say a few weeks back, right after the bye.

 

[Silky23]

Howe medically cleared, he's not a VFL standard bring back through, he's straight back in imo

Just saying on 360 now been in full training for 4-6 weeks now.

Easy change for me, Howe in and WHE out. Give Harrison another week imo

If Elliott is fit, he's in for Reef

IQ, Frampton, Maynard
Howe, Moore, Murphy
Crisp, N Daicos, J Daicos
Lipinski, Mihocek, McCreery
Bobby, Cox, AJ
Cameron, Titch, Pendlebury
Adams, Noble, Harrison, Elliott
sub - Reef

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Great to see Howey could potentially play this weekend. Be a huge injection to the team in the 2nd half of the season. Any chance he could play as the sub this Sunday, and ease him back into senior footy, or maybe even play him as a forward this Sunday?

 

[Big Bryza]

Cameron out for me. Go with Cox as sole ruck, think he plays better than when he shares it.
Harrison out as well, yes he has performed better than McInness but I feel like reef keeps having almost games and would like to see him have a month in the team to show something.
Kreuger in. Didn't really want this, wanted to see a month in vfl without injury but limited options with mcstay out.
Ginnivan in, still one of our better players at setting up opportunities, just needs to get more involved.
Swap Markov and ruscoe as sub

We're in the business of winning a flag this season, not developing players.

Reef has shown that he's not quite up to it at this point in time.

His only hope of a reprieve is if Elliott isn't quite ready.

Regardless, i'd rather Howe come in and play forward this week.