Opinion NMFC Board Cricket ThreadII - Windies, Big Bash, Pakistan.

[ChopChopDigDig]

One thought. If Carey's throw had missed the stumps and ran away, would the English betters have taken the single? If yes, then the ball was still in play. If no, then your being disingenuous because they absolutely would have.

 

[Mav]

Makes a great point. If this had happened with a spinner bowling and Carey at the stumps no one would say a thing but, Bairstow you idiot. no difference if Carey is up to the stumps or not, you have to know what's going on.

 

[Mav]

Does a pommy use a breath mint when scratching their balls?

Atherton uses dirt.

The dirt in the pocket affair

It seems extraordinary to recall now, given all the seismic scandals that have clawed away at the integrity of cricket over the past decade, but at the start of the 1990s, there was no issue more emotive than ball-tampering

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[big_e]

England's holier-than-thou schtick about the spirit of the game is all because they were shitty when Ravichandran Ashwin ran out Job Buttler at the non-striker's end in an IPL game a few years back. Before that, they hardly mentioned it, now they are the self-appointed defenders of the game's honour.

 

[Gasometer]

Totally different. Thats the batsmen still in process of the ball being bowled not walking up a pitch thinking the ball is dead

“Thinking”

Clearly not

 

[roo blitz]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

 

[DuckYeah]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

Its a stumping you half wit

 

[koshari]

Its a stumping you half wit

its like mankadding, pretty simple and only idiots get pinged for such actions, just like center square infringements in footy.

 

[the big lebowski]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

Commiserations for your team losing

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

One thought. If Carey's throw had missed the stumps and ran away, would the English betters have taken the single? If yes, then the ball was still in play. If no, then your being disingenuous because they absolutely would have.

If the throw at the stumps had ricocheted off Ben Stokes' bat and gone to the boundary, would England have taken the 4 runs and claimed the World Cup?

Oh wait, that already happened.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

As they say in park cricket (where this type of dismissal happens all the time)... is it in the book?

 

[Grogg]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

You keep posting this as though its an accurate reflection of the play. It isn't. As soon as the ball hits Careys gloves from the delivery he underarms the ball almost instantly in one motion. Your boy Bairstow, still in his crease, didn't even turn to see what was going on. Idiot who commits a schoolboy error. Nothing more than that.

 

[Roos9699]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

It was a brain fade by Bairstow he wasn't paying attention and it cost him his wicket. Carey threw the ball underarm as soon as he got it so it wasn't dead.

 

[Sillygit]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

you have got to let it go bud. dude walked out of his crease in the exact same fashion multiple balls in a row, absolutely begging to be stumped while facing a fast bowler. What's pathetic is Bairstow's lack of concentration. HE doesn't get to decide if the ball is dead, HE needs to protect HIS wicket. Carey starts to throw the ball BEFORE he's even left cause he KNOWS he's about to do it AGAIN. So what if he scratches his foot? He didn't even look back to see if the ball was gloved by the keeper! D grade level stuff from Bairstow, and given how shit his keeping has been, should be facing the axe for the next test.

 

[DuckYeah]

its like mankadding, pretty simple and only idiots get pinged for such actions, just like center square infringements in footy.

Its a stumping. He gloved it and attacked the stumps in the same motion. Its not mankadding, its a stumping.

 

[bengrina]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

Take to the sympathy for England thread mate.

 

[Samsquanch]

We are not talking about a stumping here. This is clearly a batsman walking down the pitch thinking the ball is dead. Look how far down the wicket he is. He even scratched his foot behind the line before he walked down pitch. Its a pethetic way to get a batsman out. If people want to win that way its an ugly way to do it.

He didn't say "Wicket leave" so he is out.

It seems like you've been stumped by what happened.

 

[BTRAIN2]

The Ashes 2023: Ben Stokes says he would have withdrawn the appeal of Jonny Bairstow dismissal

England captain Ben Stokes says he would not want to win with such a contentious dismissal as Jonny Bairstow's in the second Ashes Test.

www.bbc.com

You're absolutely delusional if you think the Lords crowd wouldn't have erupted to a wicket like that if the shoe was on the other foot, and called it fair game. Broad not appealing, Bairstow being too casual at the crease, just sloppy cricket really. Outplayed again by a better team, and will typically go to the victim mindset keeping true with their history.

 

[Mav]

He didn't say "Wicket leave" so he is out.

It seems like you've been stumped by what happened.

come on now, everyone knows its "Crease leave".

 

[gokangas]

I was umpiring a junior match one day (the dad at square leg) when something similar happened. I was looking away as the keeper threw down the stumps. The real ump walked over to me and said was he in? I said I wasn't looking at the batsman at that stage. Then he said - so you didn't see if he was out of his crease when the ball hit? I said no - then he said you called not out and you are right. Smiled, went back to his potion.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Would be nice if their arrogant whiny attitude meant that they again failed to reflect on what they need to improve to be ready for the next test.

btw I quite enjoyed the commentators saying that the reason wides were called yesterday and not the day before was that none of the English bowling could be remotely describing as intimidating.

And on the crowd behaviour (spurred on by bastion of sportsmanship Stuart Broad), some are already saying basically that it was because on the last day more of the wrong kind of people are let into the ground. Guys, we saw the Long Room embarrass itself and that is the home of the rightest of the right kind of people.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

I was umpiring a junior match one day (the dad at square leg) when something similar happened. I was looking away as the keeper threw down the stumps. The real ump walked over to me and said was he in? I said I wasn't looking at the batsman at that stage. Then he said - so you didn't see if he was out of his crease when the ball hit? I said no - then he said you called not out and you are right. Smiled, went back to his potion.

Bairstow levels of concentration from you there.

 

[gokangas]

I would be somewhat pi55ed off if we lost a test that way but the application of the rules was correct - simple as that really. Same with Starcs catch, or non catch. Reckon that decision was bull5hit but the experts on the telly from both sides say the application of the rule was correct. One all, I guess.

 

[gokangas]

Bairstow levels of concentration from you there.

100% - just a dad doing his time at square leg and never expected that. Woke me up though.

 

[Hojuman]

Johnny William Bunter Bairstow