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  1. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2021 offseason edition

    Thanks for analysis, easy to overlook Richmond as 'oh well they've won the last few can afford to take a punt on Andrew' - I see him as suiting Melbourne's position probably more. From basic highlights and discussion on this board Johnson seems preferred as a lock in A grader Pendlebury type...
  2. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. 2021 Edition

    Didn't realise that was their contract situation, ok that's positive news on our end should we go after them then! Yeah wouldn't offer much in the way of draft picks either, can just see with Fisher especially them rating him too highly to let him go for essentially nothing (considering our...
  3. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. 2021 Edition

    Maybe not than Rioli but better than an ageing Cripps/Langdon absolutely. Really like what Fisher brings, he's a dangerous player. SPS if (big if, he's been Carltonised and we're not a lot better at developing young mids) he hits his potential projects to be a Tim Kelly like smooth moving...
  4. The Gov

    Review Positives and Negatives vs Saints - Rd 19, 2021

    Rotham won some great contests, made mistakes but he's been crucified for playing it too safe recently, would rather he get in the mindset of taking the game on as he's not tall enough to be a purely lockdown type. Games like this should only be seen as a positive for his development, he's the...
  5. The Gov

    Positives & Negatives V Sydney @Geelong

    Hickster had a great game, one of the few things I actually enjoyed about that shitshow. He was intercepting handballs, roving spillages from marks, at one point did a NN style backwards flick hitout opposed to Nic himself that hit a running swans mid perfectly. Don't think our woes recently...
  6. The Gov

    Past #31 Tom Hickey - Ruck Jesus

    Been better than Naitanui and Vardy combined today
  7. The Gov

    Game Day West Coast Eagles vs. Sydney Swans - Round 16

    I miss Priddis.
  8. The Gov

    Game Day West Coast Eagles vs. Sydney Swans - Round 16

    Sheed needs to get dropped, killing us
  9. The Gov

    Game Day West Coast Eagles vs. Sydney Swans - Round 16

    Yeah can't fault effort, actually cracking in this game and looking like a few players who had a down week last week have been given a challenge to stand up, but stagnant, dry weather, plan A only system vs fluid, dynamic, instinctive quick style really showing us up. Kelly been a lot better...
  10. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. 2021 Edition

    Brander will realistically get us what we paid for Witherden at the trade table (I know we all like to think our players are worth more but if he asks to leave that'll be around the mark I reckon, maybe a bit more) He seems like the sort of player who'll hit their straps at 26-7 (like a sort of...
  11. The Gov

    MVP Round 15 Votes v Western Bulldogs

    5. NN 4. Shep 3. Rotham 2. TB 1. Gov
  12. The Gov

    Preview Changes Vs Sydney Swans round 16

    In - JJ, Witherden, Brander Out - Kelly, Waterman, Ryan (Suspended 1week probably) Make a statement with Kelly - Gaff at least ran and contested hard despite some stupid decisions, Kelly never looked into it. Petch was ok - should have been rewarded for a tackle or two and at least did some...
  13. The Gov

    Prediction Changes and Pre Match Discussion vs Western Bulldogs R15 @Optus.

    Yeah agreed, there'll always be a quiet game from one or two players, that's the nature of footy, just good to have more than one genuine matchwinner in there for a change. We've recently really relied on a single player (one of Kelly Yeo or Shuey solo) to break the game open from in there...
  14. The Gov

    Game Day Round 12 V Carlton. Blues Of A Different Kind.

    It was Glass, who already has resigned. Don't disagree with the disappointment re Langdon though, been a big disappointment this season and hard to see how he gets picked ahead of Jones
  15. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. 2021 Edition

    Just quietly I'm over the moon Hick God is doing well at Sydney - got good value out of him both in trade capital, committing as a clubman and in doing the list job we recruited him for, nice to see he's gone to another level in his career playing the role he's best at. I like to think I'd wish...
  16. The Gov

    MVP Votes Rd 5 WCE vs. Geelong

    5 - Barrass, thought he actually won his position against Hawkins with ridiculous supply coming in, did well keeping him under 10 goals. 4 - Darling, tried I guess 3 - Redden, actually layed a tackle or two 2 - Allen, seemed to actually care 1 - Naitanui, rucked brilliantly as always but without...
  17. The Gov

    Preview Changes vs Geelong - Rnd 6, 2021

    Really like the Waterman as backup ruck idea - would offer something similar to how Oscar played in there and Oscar needs to be staying forward from now on. Keeps Snake in the side (we struggle to find a role for him at times but he's too good not to play) and probably wouldn't change his role...
  18. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. 2021 Edition

    Absolutely agree in the sense that it's probably what makes recruiters wary, but on principle not sure I entirely agree with the recruiters mindsets. Not everyone will be a TK or Ryan but Hutchings is a fantastic example of a player without outstanding AFL attributes who was still a good enough...
  19. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Welcome to Isiah Winder (Pick 57 - 2020 National Draft)

    Maybe Steven Motlop at his best? Now when I think of Motlop I just picture the inconsistency and going missing in big games but early career projected to be an elite goalkicking HFF/Mid, razor skills and speed. Hopefully Winder applies himself to a more consistent career but at least in style...
  20. The Gov

    MVP QS Medal: West Coast Eagles Poster of the Year 2020 - Congratulations Dylan82

    Dylan82 has provided more insightful analysis than most of the AFL media 'experts' who are paid to do it combined this year, nomination for sure
  21. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

    Would we take Sam Fisher? 22 year old Sandover Medallist, midfielder who can push forward. No 18 year old mid we draft at our picks will be having any great impact in the next 2 seasons. Obviously in the first 2 rounds you want first crack at the best 18 year olds but after that I'm always a...
  22. The Gov

    List Mgmt. 2020 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

    Hickey is fine as a player, would have wanted a bit more for him with my bias glasses on (don't see what we'll do with the picks but then again Aliir is a far more valuable player who didn't get much trade value either) glad he'll get a bit more opportunity hopefully. Edit: The WC board got...
  23. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

    Would very much rather Hewitt over Witherden anyway, if the Brisbane deals falls through may as well go all in on Hewett. Think Witherden could be a good player for us but has a few question marks over his game and sort of allows us to replace Jetta/shuffle a few soldiers around but doesn't...
  24. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

    Think the relationship between the clubs is pretty good as well, respect on the field after the GFs and have made some healthy deals off field in the past, we develop ruckmen well so it's a good apprenticeship for taking greater responsibility at Sydney
  25. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

    Forgot about him, yeah would be great, pretty much just keen on us identifying a player who offers those strengths and playing him in that role rather than the wing space guarding spot we usually throw debutants into. Obviously would want that player to be the best option we've got and agree...
  26. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

    Honestly think our biggest flaw/missing piece is that contested mid, the one who would actually rather the ball bouncing around legs and winning it that way than receiving a clean hitout or handball. The ground ball gets player. Someone who will probably not be our best looking player but get it...
  27. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Welcome Jack Petruccelle (Pick 38, 2017 National Draft)

    I sadly don't think we ever saw Judd in his prime, won a Brownlow in his third season, was ridiculous in 05 and 06 then we ****ed his groins in 07 and he lost that burstablility he had, just as he was entering prime age for a mid. Still won a Brownlow at Carlton but with a better midfield around...
  28. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

    Yeah you can't replace your #1 ruck when they retire with an 18 year old you pick up that year in the draft. When NN retires Vardy and Hickey likely also won't be on the list, so we'll have Jamieson and Williams as our only rucks. Not a need we need filled right now but certainly not worth...
  29. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

    Yep would do, totally agree about giving up quality to get quality. Think another poster mentioned earlier that we're all just scared Brander would go on to do very well at another club and make us look silly. Can't think like that with trades IMO, sometimes gotta do a Jetta/Sinclair swap and...
  30. The Gov

    List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

    Not sure who we'd be looking at in the draft but it'll go a long way to fixing our depth issues by adding Langdon, Narkle, Waterman, one of Guelfi/Kyron Hayden and potentially swapping Brander for Clark (not fussed if that happens or not but would certainly be better for Jarrod's development as...
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