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  1. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    Scenario B is by far the more likely of the two scenarios. However, the two conditions you outline in each scenario (i.e. Allan performance and Rowell recontract) aren't linked. I think the most likely is that Allan has a solid year and cements himself in the 22 by years end (not necessarily...
  2. Jelly Bean

    Training Pre-season updates 2025.

    I'm planning on being there on Friday, but the main questions I think I have would be: Jordy, to your point. Is he in full training? And which group does he train with? Perryman. Is he lining up with the backs or the mids? Reef. I know he is training as a key back, but want to see for myself...
  3. Jelly Bean

    Best 23 in 2025

    If Hayes will spend more time barking up at senior quality opposition players and trying to look tough rather than focussing on his own contributions to a team that really needs him to do his job, then yep, he could be our Konstas.
  4. Jelly Bean

    Best 23 in 2025

    Yeah, I generally don't love it when I see Howe filling a key position in defense - it is a major weakness. He is so much better as a third man up / third tall than having to man a Curnow or McKay type for example. And it let's us go with a trick play of shifting him forward if needed as he is a...
  5. Jelly Bean

    Training Pre-season updates 2025.

    Wow, you've nailed the timing then. Per Jen's comment, the first main one is on Friday at 9.30 (and I'm hoping to get down there as well).
  6. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    Where have I said that I disagree with Nick Daicos' opinion?
  7. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    That's the point I'm making. Just because the players when interviewed preseason about another teammate say that he is on fire and will be a star, doesn't mean he will be a star.
  8. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    I'm not necessarily saying they have doubts about them, I'm saying that there is not necessarily a high correlation between what they say, and how effective that player becomes. In recent years, each of Fin, Reef, and Johnson were all talked up, and each was probably in the conversation about...
  9. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    I'm not sure a player's public statement about a teammate is really the best judge of whether someone will be a gun or not - they are obviously going to overstate the teammate's potential to the positive. We only need to look back over the years to see the players that talked up the likes of Ash...
  10. Jelly Bean

    Opinion 529: Who will get how many games in 2025?

    Um, yeah, that's right. Or to say another way, 100% of this just comes down to who gets injured/suspended/in or out of form and for how many games. That's what 76w is asking people to take a guess at.
  11. Jelly Bean

    Opinion 529: Who will get how many games in 2025?

    Predicting only 7 games for Reef isn't really 'backing him into his new role in the backline' though.
  12. Jelly Bean

    Opinion 529: Who will get how many games in 2025?

    P.S. Who is Howell...? Howe on earth can you not know his name by now? :)
  13. Jelly Bean

    Opinion 529: Who will get how many games in 2025?

    Super fun exercise 76w - although I don't really understand your starting point though. My attempt below - it's actually harder than it looks. Some principles for me: I first of all picked 7 players I didn't think would get a game this year (based on the prior years of 37/38 players playing...
  14. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    I also said that I didn't believe that the overall package that we would put together would likely stack up. Be real for a minute Fat Jesus. If GC offered us Rowell for Allan and our 4th rounder, you are doing it.
  15. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    No, I don't believe we will trade him as part of a package for Rowell, as I communicated clearly and several times. I don't think we will be able to trade for Rowell because we don't have the right assets we are willing to trade.
  16. Jelly Bean

    Player Watch Harry Perryman

    Okay, well that's a surprise... He came 7th in the B&F? I need to watch more Giants games.
  17. Jelly Bean

    Player Watch Harry Perryman

    Interesting listening, and reinforced a couple of things on my mind. 1. No one really knows much about him. 2. No one really knows where he is going to fit in and how he is going to be a strong contributor. Unusual profile for someone we are paying 900k p.a. to, but I'm hoping he can stamp...
  18. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    First of all, I have not suggested trading Allan at all - you might want to go back and look at my posts before you pop off like this. What I was defending was people's rights to share a view on this forum of what Allan might be able to fetch on the trade market. Secondly, I definitely don't...
  19. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    You can absolutely. But this forum is in large part about making predictions and guesses about what might happen in the future, and the above scenario classifies. You are welcome to not provide your opinion until 2025 has played out though.
  20. Jelly Bean

    Player Watch Nick Daicos

    Could have already had two brownlows. Already is 12th all time in votes for Collingwood players.
  21. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    Yep exactly - in the final game of a 2 year stretch on the list, and where he had only played one game prior in the two years.
  22. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    Gold Coast say no to this one for sure. For two reasons - 1) because Rowell is worth far more to them than a future (uncertain number) first round and a couple of latter picks, especially since they don't really need draft picks anymore, they need to keep their developing core together as much...
  23. Jelly Bean

    Player Watch Harry DeMattia

    List blogger - hahah....! I feel like I'm a list blogger who's been on this blog site too long...
  24. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    You'd relucantly accept a trade where we lose Harrison and a future first round pick in 2026, for Rowell...? Um, yep, so would everyone. Well, except for Gold Coast, obviously...
  25. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    Of course there is a point - it is a prediction, that's we do on this site. There would be much less content on this site if we stripped out all predictions. So the point of the declaration is to register my prediction. If we successfully trade for him, then I'm wrong. If someone else trades...
  26. Jelly Bean

    Rating our U23 Prospects

    Long was on Hawthorn's list for a few years prior also, and even though he had the same physical attributes as we've described was delisted.
  27. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    No, last year we traded a best 22 player, a borderline best 22 player, a first round pick and a second round pick. This year, we won't be able to trade a first round pick or a second round pick, won't have a player we are able to let go, and Rowell would command a higher trade price than Houston.
  28. Jelly Bean

    Player Watch Edward Allan

    How was he held back? He played a full season in the VFL didn't he?
  29. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    Yeah, it's an easy thing to say, but who? Give me an example of someone who we would be okay to trade away (noting that we are also close to a flag) that GC would want as compensation for losing one of the best young mids and the former number one draft pick? The likes of a De Goey or Cameron...
  30. Jelly Bean

    List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

    If Rowell was on the trade table, someone is going to offer 2x top 12 first round picks as a starting point. We don't have enough good mid aged players to upstage that, without being net negative to our competitiveness.
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