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There's always a surprise player or two who come through in pre-season and grab a spot in the team, but I feel like aside from the Big O the guys who missed out on the grand final have it all to prove to get back into the team. Are Gardiner or Doedee really knocking out any of the back six...

The biggest thing that could drive us up one spot next year is the pain of missing out this year. Clearly our list is right in the mix and it isn't changing to any great extent and while some of the top teams have made changes they aren't shifting the balance of power. As we've seen this year...

I think one of the issues for the AFL with scheduling is covering all possibilities. Lets say they made the Brisbane prelim Friday night and the Collingwood/Port one Saturday. In the event that Port Adelaide had beaten Collingwood in the Prelim then Brisbane would have had an 8 day break and...

because we are a chance at a premiership. and if someone is injured in September you at least want an experienced strong body who can bring the ball to ground or make life difficult for a defender (hello Billy Frampton) rather than just some 19yo with 2 games experience who shits the bed when...

I actually have a question that I'm hoping nostalgic types in this thread might be able to help with... I'm trying to work out the date of the first Brisbane Lions family day at Brunswick Street Oval which I think was in early 1997 (but it may have been before Christmas at the start of...

we must know we have another pick swap sorted that will add to our points for this season?

B: Andrews Payne Gardiner HB: Starcevich Coleman Wilmott (for pace) Mid: McLuggage Robertson Aschcroft Fol:McInerney Dunkley Neale HF: Cameron Rayner Bailey F: Gunston Hipwood Daniher Int: Zorko Berry McCarthy Fort 5th/sub: Rich In the mix: Answerth, Prior, Lyons, Mathieson, Adams, Ah Chee...

One thing with Rich (and our defence generally) is that we seem to have forgotten the lessons of the two Hodge years. I think Rich needs to do more of what Hodge did sitting 30-50m deeper than the last player as a sweeper. Think Rich followed that lead in 2020/21 and was sitting off the play...

At Round 6 people were looking back on Joe's 30ish games for Brisbane and suggesting he was in the top few forwards in the game. He is an attacking gun to the extent you can look past his other flaws to a certain extent (see below) within the team. The Elimination Final is a good example...

FB: Gardiner Andrews Payne HB: Starcevich Coleman Wilmot Fol: McInerney Neale Robertson Mid: McLuggage Dunkley Aschcroft HF: Bailey Raynor Linc FF: Daniher Hipwood Charlie (2 talls) Int: Rich, Zorko, Berry, Fort. Sub: Ah Chee - seems to be about the most versatile player on the list...

Looking at pick swaps I don’t see any value for other teams in our later picks. The pies have the points for daicos with their first 4 picks and a swap with us would probably push back their first live pick. The dogs might need more points but the way their picks sit our picks don’t suit them...

The cuts that had to be made. I assume there is no option to just pay CEY out and not have him use a list spot next season? I know our recruiting team has had a lot of hits but it’s pretty disappointing to get a combined 3 games from 3 players picked at like 35/40/43 or something. Ely Smith...

The next 3 years always seemed to be the target years for me on our best premiership window. the last 3 years I would say were ‘massive Surprise’ (2019), ‘surprise’ 2020, ‘consolidation’ 2021. look at Melbourne - young list makes prelim in 2018 falls into wilderness 19/20 now in grand final...

The last few years we’ve managed people on rookie list. would think the most likely list changes are ballenden, Birchall and A Smith who are all rookies… that opens room for CEY and perhapsnother contracted player to be rookies. Did we sign lane in mid season draft for 6 or 18 months? If he...

I guess we've all been thinking about this a lot lately. Tall Defenders: Gardiner, Andrews, Adams Small/medium Defenders: Rich, Starcevich, Coleman Midfield: McLuggage, Neale, Bailey Rucks: Oscar, Zorko, Lyons Small/Medium Forwards: McCarthy, Raynor, Cameron Tall Forwards: Daniher, McStay...

I haven't read this thread in detail... first time on bigfooty in a while so sorry for the bump. My observation about our goalkicking is that aside from pure bad kicking so often our players line themselves up wrong. McStay in particular often has his body top open to the goals and aligned...

agree with a lot of the defence analysis and Lester being a potential casualty for first 22 as Payne emerges and if Adams is fit. He had a really good year but think the 1 year deals should continue. Looking at our list its obvious we are short a couple of genuine midfielders. Need Deven...

I agree that I don't see the bombers accepting one of our first rounders if they match. Its such a marginal improvement on the compo offer that it wouldn't make sense... Yes making us match "weakens us" compared to getting Daniher for free and that may play well in the "politics" of...

IMO Witherden is unlucky in our team make up. Hi lack of pace limits him to filling 1 or 2 spots available in the team. We have Rich and Birchall ahead of him in the "slowish," ball using, smaller defenders which is the position Witherden would play. We can't play 3 "slowish" not lockdown...

Also my bombers friends are all of a mind to "let him go," accept the compensation draft pick (even if its Pick 20) and move on.

the posts from BrunoV are a bit concerning to me. He "rushed back and looked fit" for a few weeks and then broke down quickly... makes you wonder how committed he is to doing the 1%'s with his own body to get it right... Seems like he personally (as much as Essendon pushing him) was trying to...

Hi Lions Insider. Will the whole club be coming down to Melbourne in pre-season as happened last year including for a reserves game? Any chance if its happening that it won't be in Casey?

unless Archie Smith improves significantly he might be at risk of being fully delisted and paid out for the last year of his deal (2021). Obviously the club would need to find some ruckman given Stef's age but Archie being downgraded to rookie list this year, not attracting any interest from...

amazing trade for us. bascially a 13 pick downgrade to get pick 6-12 in next years draft. Picks 52/55 of limited value generally and almost zero to us with our list situation. Port now have picks 12/16/18/52/55/66/67/68/72 did they even need picks 52/55? How many live picks do we need. Given...

Also confirmed big o upgraded. So we now have Bought in 3 players (Birchall, cey, ah chee) 1 retirement (hodge) Delisted 3 players, (Walker, Robertson, Keays) (from senior list) Traded 2 players (cutler, Taylor) Upgraded 2 rookies (big o, hinge) And have skinner, bundy, Lyons unsigned. And...

I'd still be expecting 2-3 pick swaps from here for us. We have 7 picks inside 64 and actually traded down in the draft to get that 64 indicating we see value in it. eg. 16+21 to move up. 34 used live. Adelaide only have 4 picks (4/23/28/49) but seem to have lots of players leaving so you...

Surely the arrival of Birchall only happened because we 100% know that laird (And smith) are off the table? Why get Birchall (so early in trade period) if you think there is any chance of getting laird as an experienced running half back?

Interestingly from a points perspective 16+21=5. So cutler and Taylor are given away but represent the value of those higher picks dal santo was talking about. Some simpler variations on that theme. Cutler and 55 for essendons 31. That pick increase is about 300 points or pick 45 which seems...

Agree. This seems odd. I was expecting we would be grouping picks and trading up not creating more picks ‘to use’. Likely we’ll ask for future picks for cutler/Taylor if they leave now you’d think. We have picks 16/21/34/52/55. So need 5 list spots open to use those picks. We only have...

How about Robertson to Adelaide greenwood to gcs and ah Chee to us. We probably do best out of it but all teams are getting a borderline 22 player. Re: witherden I think his lack of pace as the backline general will be a lot better hidden next year without hodge beside him as an even slower...