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His suffering is over now, but geez you feel for the family in situations like this. Just an awful thing to happen.

His dementia is worsening so two more years and it should take care of itself. A late stage fixation on a deluded premise is common as the old brain winds down.

I don't think he was saying Bont had a 2 year peak. Just that his (extended) peak has been at the level of quality Kouta reached those couple of seasons.

Take stats out of the equation and Arsenal have obviously been a team more "in flow" than Man City, who have picked up some results (they have too much talent not to) but been a discombobulated unit. Of course that doesn't discount the chance that City could ruin our party, but Arsenal have...

I can honestly say nobody else appreciates the aesthetic appeal of our players more than you. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Full strength midfield* is what I meant. One you would start in a knockout final with everybody available. But yes it's been tracking that way since Selwood + Smith retired, Guthrie broke and Blicavs moved back to defence. This season it will track further that way.

Agreed. Let the kids loose on the weekend, but the priorities have to be Goodison > League Cup > FA Cup as far as our planning over the next week and a bit. And the first two we should be able to out out full strength teams - the game in the middle we can rest most.

Exactly! Sorry - you got all excited, I was trying to match the energy.

He knows he's MLS for sure! Huzzah! Bam! Kapow!

In all seriousness, he has come out looking great after that ill advised relationship with Manchester United. Not many would have predicted he'd be the one to come out better off out of that one.

Are Man United, post-Fergie, arriving at their "full circle" moment? Moyes is looking mighty good about now (metaphorically speaking)...

Sarcasm successfully undetected. You're usually not quite as slow on the uptake. How could you read the 2nd and 3rd sentences and still have it fly over your head? Try again and get back to me.

SDK/Conway, Holmes, Smith, Bruhn, Dangerfield, Dempsey would be our youngest starting midfield group in many years (extending it to ruck, rovers, centreman and wings). Just the one veteran. Pretty exciting times.

We'd all take a league win where the world doesn't end halfway through (like last time) no matter which way it comes - easy or hard. It looks like the lads still have a real battle on their hands, and that's fine. Not that many PLs have been wrapped up by now. City might have done it a couple of...

I've always liked Arsenal, and to be honest haven't come across this idea of them as the most hated club in the PL. Is that something you think has popped up recently or throughout your time supporting them?

The tears, the report button mashing, the desperate appeals. All because they have yet to convince a single neutral of their outlandish, ridiculous stances on where all things Richmond should be ranked. Admittedly this only covers a handful of posters. The rest will chime in with their usual one...

The Arsenal envy is crazy. Oh to be 6 points off 1st, having played a game more... All those recent PL and CL titles in the rear view mirror, on top of it.

Get the 1-10 list, I'll calculate scores and then you'll have something. Until then I have already accepted your concession speech and we can move on to your next desperate angle.

Concession accepted. I'm here to help next time you need something swiftly dismissed and ridiculed.

I really wouldn't go there, given Richmond supporters are by far the biggest laughing stock on this forum - as they are in real life.

So you're admitting you wouldn't make a thread because you don't in fact believe Martin would come out ranked second? I don't know whether it's just the heat, but you and Noidy have been much more transparent today. It's a breath of fresh air and I applaud you for it.

Tenuous at best, worthless at worst. Just get people to vote "best" or submit 1-10 lists. It's actually really simple and there's a reason this is how polls/ranking systems have been used routinely. Not by getting one guy to submit a list and then a bunch of people to say overrated or underrated.

Get a 1-10 ranking of those players, in fact why not run a poll on BigFooty right now. I'll add up the average scores and submit an actual analysis, like I did with the GAJ/Judd/Voss/Martin/Buckley/Hird thread. Then we'll know where at least one subsection of the footy community rank each...

So now you have no idea where people rate him, so how would you know whether they rank him higher or lower than you? You do realise that if we shuffled around the order of those names in the HS poll and got people to answer, we could end up with entirely different conclusions? I.e if Buddy was...

Yes it's another conspiracy, where people discriminate against midfielders who rotated forward and scored lots of memorable goals. People are naturally biased to overrate pure midfielders, who score less goals. Sometimes you really need to think before you post. There were 3 clear tiers based...

Where do you think people rate him? I'll give you a list (let's keep it to AFL era only, 10 off the top of my head to compare him to): Carey Williams Judd Voss Franklin Lockett Ablett Junior Pavlich Goodes Dangerfield

The thread title was "rank these players", not "rank their midfield output". Once again a lack of comprehension that would be amusing if it wasn't so concerning. But at least we are now straight back to you flip flopping on whether public opinion matters or not. It obviously doesn't if people...

I accept that you rate him highly, of course I do. It's when you pretend others do as well, that I correct you. But you can't seem to accept that. We are discussing whether that analytical approach was the best one. It clearly isn't, or else it would be how literally everything is voted on and...

The first step in any peer review process is to look at the strength of the method used. It is what every conclusion rests on. This was probably the worst designed poll I have ever seen. I posted the actual quantitative analysis of ranking GAJ, Judd, Voss, Martin, Buckley and Hird. That was the...

All approaches are also open to question. Is there a reason you have never offered this bright new approach to determining public opinion before: "I'm going to list players...say whether this ranking makes them overrated or underrated and I will formulate a new list". Or why we have never seen...