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What’s going on with Ashton? Seemingly nowhere near senior selection.

Where was he playing? Have we shuffled him back to half back with the absence of Newman or is he in the mid rotation still?

The Fox one is really nice with player stats and team stats added. By itself looks a little weird, but I’m sure that’s just me not being used to it.

Just because the NFL does it doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. The scorebug is crucial in the NFL, and displays far more information than an AFL scorebug. Completely unnecessary to take up the centre of the screen in the AFL.

I went to Snakes training the other night, never seen a more cohesive unit in my life.

Except the producer... The old Channel 10 producer went to Seven, and the old Channel 9 producer (Brad McNamara) went to Fox.

Another Brendon Julian disasterclass from the studio tonight.

That’s the thing though - you’ll never see this on Fox. Goes against their brand.

Further to that, the microphone's 7 have (and everywhere else around the world) means commentators actually think before they speak, they think about the viewer and the game. I doubt Isa Guha's mistake would have occurred on 7.

There's two pretty clear & different philosophical approaches towards commentary. It's almost perfectly encapsulated with the Channel 7 "raise to speak" microphone, while Fox have the hands-free. One invites insight, letting the game breathe, and letting the players do the talking. The other...

Not much of a "re-brand" when you don't even know what your brand is.

new Channel 7 scorebug is terrible. It takes up way too much room.

Yes that is my point

The worst part about it is the notion that they just need to slap their logo on the front of the jumper. It didn't work before and it hasn't worked now. It's not a good identity. The only team that it works for is Carlton.

Well done Balmain

Angland - 8 Rohesia - 2 Serpentine - 5 Rey Magnerio - 6 Quickster - 4 Bellatrix Star - 3 Fangirl - 7 Via Sistina - 9 Zulfiqar - 1

Carina Queen - 1 Oscar’s Fortune - 5 Alma Rise - 3 Running By - 8 Verdad - 6 Torranzino - 2 Bold Bastille - 7 Treasurethe Moment - 9 Poison Chalice - 4

Price Tag - 9 Plymouth - 6 Chattahoochee - 2 Last Druid - 1 Quantum Cat - 5 Cafe Millenium - 8 Land Legend - 7 Media World - 3 Aviatress - 10 Is It Me - 4

Stylish Secret - 4 I Am Velvet - 1 Charm Stone - 2 Another Wil - 9 Killcare Beachgirl - 6 Switzerland - 8 Keeneland - 3 Alsephina - 5 Pondalowie - 7

Don't rate Point King?

Anyway, he's probably not a bad price to find out. 4/1 to see whether he can run it is reasonable considering if he does he is prob an evens shot.

Has been discussed in the Caulfield Cup thread

I reckon the yard watchers will be laying him at the trip, not that I am one.

Unbackable odds he will go straight into the Melbourne Cup. Geelong Cup was probably a nom in case he didn't qualify, which he has.

Why would he go Geelong Cup?

He was outstayed by Via late there. His only go at the trip he was basically pulled up just after the line. And he's by Fastnet Rock

Gee you make a good case for DDS & Young Werther, especially post draw. That race at Caulfield two back has been white hot, plus they were not beaten far in the Turnbull.

Sayedaty any risk a strong 2400?

The class often rises in these weaker renewals, probably don’t have to look too much further than the first half a dozen saddlecloths

Thought Adelaide River was quietly good yesterday in the M&P, decent flukers chance