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Would that have made Toney a 20m striker?

Also I'd love to have egg on my face and Solanke hitting 15 PL goals for us. Would be a massive cap in the feather for the data lead scouting setup we've got. On pure historical efforts at Liverpool, Chelsea and Bournemouth before last season there's nothing to suggest he'll be worth 65m.

Shane Long has had many good championship seasons, he was a perfectly average PL striker.

Ange showed at the end that he'd rather Kulu centrally than Werner. I think he'd even be behind Johnson going through the middle. Speaking of up front, when is richarlison due back? We should have sold him this summer

Not sure what language I need to put this in for you to get it? It's his 8 year history as a top flight one season wonder, not his first 2 games with us. I'm sure he'll be perfectly average for us based on who he is and what he's shown over his career. 65m for perfectly average

On paper, routine Nothing like it

I don't think Werner is that far ahead of the current levels of Moore let alone their ceilings It's just an age and trust thing. I get it but don't like it. You know you'll get a 4-6 out of 10 with Werner every game, with the odd 8. With Moore it's a real unknown between 2-10

Because we don't have any strikers

Really liked the seriousness ange gave this game with his line up. A lot of positives with 10 men for 83 muns Dragusin really stupid. Davies at LB didn't get a proper look at, but has been very poor at LCB. Shame ange wasn't brave enough at 3 nil to go for Moore over deadwood Werner

I will concede he isn't Vincent Janssen bad. I could imagine him missing that tap in.

It's carrier bag champ and a tap in from a keeper howler. Good hold up play from him today it must be said

City at home in the 4th round Better now than in a final in Feb

Vicario Austin Dragusin Davies Whiteman Bergvall Gray Kulusevski Johnson Solanke Moore In all seriousness no idea who plays at LB to give Udogie a rest Vicario Gray Dragusin Davies ??? Bergvall Bissouma Kulusevski Johnson Solanke Moore

I can't keep up with the rules on handball A keeper coming out and deliberating swatting a ball away to their advantage I thought was worth a red. I know it's not a direct goal threat. But keeper handballing outside the box on purpose used to be red from memory

Bournemouth

Lose possession win the game Dominant performance which actually to lead to gold chances at goal, which is no coincidence when Maddison and Kulusevski press and dominate midfield like they did. Got lucky with Vicario not getting picked up for the deliberate handball. But maddison deserved to...

I've seen nothing overly bad from him with us It's the 10 goals from 86 top flight appearances before last season. Games littered with one season wonders. Andy Johnson, Benjani come to mind. Or closer to home Mido

My annoyance stemmed from it being a beautiful 7am kickoff in nz and playing the dodgy stream roulette to watch that pile of shit first half. Hopefully the lucky break sees a confidence boost and results to flow. Before today none of the performances were a major concern. Today was red flags...

Hahaha he is a fluff journo who isn't critical ever because he gets great access. For him to give out a 3 in a win says it all about Forster

They rotated in the cups too and it cost us We seem to have a fixation on it being 8-11 changes We also have a fixation on some players being nailed on PL starters and not bringing them off the bench from occasion

I've not said he should be sacked or seen enough to think he will be, before today Cups will be his saving grace this season Our performance and selection should have got us knocked out. Into the next round with a massive amount luck, we take it. But luck has a way of balancing itself out...

Even the normally kind Alisdair Gold gave him a 3 in his ratings

And did you see him try to play out from the back

Of course the back up keeper is important lol Have you seen him in penalty shoot outs

This isn't an ange problem exclusively Poch did it and failed Mou semi did it and nearly worked Conte did it and failed Ange did it last year failed

Good enough to be trophy less, sure

8 to 10 changes is what we've seen time and time again and we get the same results in cups

The point is Davies and Forster aren't good enough to be squad players

Some of the Johnson rhetoric is baffling. Criticism for being something he isn't. There's definitely times he shouldn't be in the team but he's ahead of quite a few like Werner, Kulusevski and Maddison for actual output

Credit to ange for his love and support for ange with his comments about punching Johnson critics in the nose He's a young player that will have as many good as bad moments and his numbers last season were good