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You can add to that Collingwood 16th for Inside 50's and Carlton 15th. An indication that the midfield is struggling. Burns and Buckley clearly make a difference in this regard and someone like Lockyer as well. Got to think that Woewodin, Licuria and O'Bree aren't picking up the slack...

It's been a long time since Carlton had a dominant full forward. Sticks was there until 97 but he was really a centre half forward. Carlton have only had a player once kick the ton and that was Jezza back in 1970. Fevola seems destined to do the same one day.

Put me down. Lucky there is so many good threads about Carlton tonight, may not have been on here for a few days and would have missed Thrawn's PM to come here.

Suit me up as well. If there is no spots I can be a supersub and burst player off the bench. Skinny12 beat me to it but since he told me to come here I guess he deserves it. When do we play? Do we rotate players like in real footy if they are not performing well? I will have number 2 if...