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He will win you a few games off his boot alone, he's still capable of the extraordinary. You also have enough talent and are a well run team that his down games shouldn't influences results too much. Don't expect a model of consistency, nothing in his career shows he is capable of it. We...

I wish I could remember where I read/heard it. I don't follow them from earlier in junior footy so I'm unsure if it's just taking guys who have had exposure there as juniors and they had just become typecast or it's just a decent run but from memory there was like 8-9 players that has made the...

Not that I disagree, but it's also a bit of a trend recently for clubs to be tapping into their half backs for midfield roles. There was a stat somewhere that some of the more impressive Supercoach scorers were ex flankers that had been given midfield minutes and flourished. I think Dawson and...

There's also a difference between no recognised elite talent and actually having none. I'd argue hawks have some players with absolutely elite traits but it's not recognised as much yet or doesn't get focused on. Football industry is slow to come round on most things and normally lags behind...

I don't quite trust my eye when it comes to Hird, he was my favourite player and obviously played for us so I feel I'm not exactly impartial in putting him in a category.

Not getting into the amount of quality players we have on the list too much but I would say that being elite has to include some kind of consistency at a certain level. My tiers would be something like this Legend Superstar Elite Great Good Above average Average Below average Bad Good...

Zach is a really good player.

Would he be our most physically explosive player on the list now? Taking into account size, speed etc Pretty keen to see how he goes skills wise.

So with the points changes, does that inflate the value of third round picks considerably? The thinking being they are used for points matching while 1st and 2nds are used on your talent?

Can't really judge talent so early but seemingly the process was a success. faible laid out what it appears he has created value wise from what we had, that alone feels fresh and a bit more modern. Previously if we were marching into this period with prior regime we would have gone all out...

It's also a nice look at what we may be able to do going forward if this is the type of thinking we have. We were at a disadvantage this year due to the lack of capital and where our first pick and bids fell. What can we do when we have a surplus of resources? How does that set up up...

Maybe I'm wrong, I just have a feeling they ain't finishing bottom 5.

Happy with that.

Where was Whitlock rated prior to the draft on here? Was mocked around 20-23 from what I gather. I'm not sure you can hold the thought that this is some kind of super draft (which judging by the posting begging us to get back in I'd say most do) and then laugh at north for trading back in...

Maybe they didn't believe the talk and were pointing it out earlier but were howled down by people defending him? Everyone on this forum has seen this happen with this club.

How does melbournes draw look?

I nominate eth-dog

I'll admit I'm not really across the real details of US politics. But surely in the following days after the results, hearing celebrities say how upset and distraught they are on social media, having talk show hosts lecture people on how horrible this is as a result and how broken the country...

A lot of sports have supplemental list spots that are used for both veteran depth and rookies. This arrangement allows for both, it's up to clubs to choose how they want to use it. I don't get the exploit issue, it's not an exploit. It's not how you want it used, it doesn't make it wrong. I...

It seems to be though? It's not serving the function it appears you guys want, it's called the rookie list so you want actual rookies taking those spots. Correct? Let's for instance say it was called the "practice squad spot" and it had the same rules you could place no name rookies or close to...

Why?

Is the only issue that it's called the rookie list?

Look I get being frustrated with a situation but actively wanting to make it worse by making a stupid decision to push assets into a current year because everyone tells you how good it is just idiotic. Right now our supporters are like the investor who holds a tiny amount of shares that they...

Yeah I stand by everything I said on the Idun part of things. Couldn't quite care about the other stuff, but that one seems absolutely ridiculous.

Quite easily, there is always good wins and bad wins, same as bad losses and good losses. Play like crap for 3 quarters and go on a run in one quarter, the opposition can't kick straight even when beating you in most other areas. You can also be playing a style that doesn't hold up in big spots...

The revisionist history is thinking we played well in that first half of the year. We were not playing good football, that was a fact and people said it at the time. Some of our better wins came off 4 quarters of football where the press worked to perfection, that was the rare time all year...

Eh, I don't believe in just grabbing a FA because we could, has to be the right player targeted as part of a greater list strategy. If the list strategy involved walking the enigma ruckman in FA for comp picks to inject talent into the list as part of a designated core I don't mind not bringing...

I think I'm more referring to the 200cm beanpole types or guys that fall a bit outside the norm. Your more built guys appear to be ok. Whilst it might just be bad luck, we have been sub par in so many areas I don't want to just dismiss a players injury history as on them and bad luck.

Whilst probably true I still don't want to rule out the possibility we cannot develop talls properly and it was us that failed him.

Why do you want to take a FA next year? And who?