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I doubt they'd have legal grounds to sack Fagan, and if it gets to that stage it would be fairly obvious that he's not who everyone thought he was. What I'm saying is that the best outcome for the club would be for Fagan to quietly retire or "take time away from the game" before the end of the...

Talk or carefully crafted legal and PR strategy? There seems to be a lot of investment from some fans in finding this one weird trick that will get Fagan off the hook. Unless this is all a work of fiction (I'm certain that it isn't), the degree of Fagan's involvement shouldn't matter in...

At least read the thread.

Anyone trying to make this some weird Lions supporter victim complex thing is so far off base it's mind boggling.

This explains it a lot better than I can. Less talk, more listening Sausages.

That's the other thing. I don't think people realise what a precarious situation the club is in as a small fry heavily dependent on government funding for its future viability. It's not Collingwood, and chances are there will be significant internal and external pressure to get this sorted...

The key word here is accused, although the emerging consensus here appears to be that they're the real victims.

Do you think the afl would've investigated this properly, or binned the report and had a few people sign non-disclosure agreements? You must've been born yesterday.

What do the power dynamics in this scenario look like to you? Are Clarkson, Fagan and co in the same situation as these former players?

What do you want to happen to those people? I see two possible options here- you're awfully naive, or you want them to be held to account (i.e. subject to a media circus, legal action, threats from racists and deranged fans). If they wish to remain anonymous, that must be respected.

Why is this the most important issue here for you? That's the real question.

People who keep repeating this line should consider that claiming to have been ambushed by questions and not given enough time to respond is a very standard PR move. There is also the possibility that Fagan was aware of the questions, sought advice, and was told not to respond for PR or legal...

I think it's part people who know exactly what they're doing and just want this to do away, and part people who aren't yet willing to reckon with the serious and distressing nature of all this (note that finding this distressing for those of us who are white is neither here nor there). It's...

I think this concern has been adequately addressed many times, including by the very reputable journo you're trying to discredit. Is this satire?

I haven't posted here in ages. I just wanted to say that this place is an absolute cesspool. The tolerance for attempts at whitewashing, smearing, equivocation etc is sickening. While there's not much blatant racism here, there's plenty of subtext and a metric ton of absolute cowardice. Sit...

I don't see that point of being disappointed in players or the team. None of this means anything. The fact that this round went ahead to begin with is farcical.

Unless something changes dramatically, no chance.

If anyone's willing to shell out that sort of money at this point they're certifiable, take it and run (although it probably goes straight to the ****ing Kroenkes anyway). I haven't even thought about what happens to football now, hard to see where the money to keep maintain the levels of...

It's bizarre. Casinos in ****ing vegas closed days ago.

Do people think it's a cyclone?

My worry with continuing to play is testing. Stocks of testing kits are running low, we don't want more players getting tests when members of the general public wouldn't. The UK can't even test frontline medical staff, and in parts of the US they're unable to work because they can't get tested...

In this case I'm not sure the CMO counts as an expert. He's just a medical professional tasked with communicating with the public and with government, something he's doing a pretty ****ing terrible job of. As far as I know his actual area of expertise is nephrology (kidneys). He communicates...

I don't see how you get from economic collapse to "full scale disintegration of civilisation". There are many possible forms of life and ways of organising societies. For one thing, dependence on wage labour and market economies doesn't have to be inevitable. But that's not what's on the table...

At a certain point the normal economic function of things may no longer be possible even for the most committed capitalists. We're not seeing modelling that governments have access to for the most part. But this report focussing on the US and UK...

Do they really think sports leagues have any chance of getting a bailout? If the NRL gets one, so does everyone else. No chance. I really hope they do. There's just too much risk involved and 0 chance of preventing players from getting infected, and they have families too. It's also staff...

I mean worst economic crash in real terms, not relative (the global economy now is much larger than at previous points in history). A lot will depend on how accurate predictions of 40-60% or similar of the global population getting the virus turn out to be.

I've seen speculation that we could be looking at the largest real economic crisis in history and that might not be so far fetched. We can't return to business as usual after this- not that there was much time left before things would've changed drastically in one way or another anyway. If we...

"The experience of Wuhan and northern Italy is as bad as or worse than 1918. The case fatality ratios in these locations now are twice what the United States experienced in 1918. Other places have been able to avoid such a dire situation by aggressive public health and community mitigation...

I don't know if testing travellers on arrival is necessarily effective. Yesterday the US had recorded more cases of screeners at airports getting the virus themselves than arrivals with the virus. South Korea made travellers download an app and report symptoms through it.

Let's look on the bright side here. If you were a fan of AFLX, you could be in for a real treat later this year if things don't spiral out of control too badly. I assumed there was private testing available in the US, but apparently Oklahoma used 70% of its daily capacity to test players before...