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Apologies, that was one of the other Richmond nuffies in here. What do you define as a 'Sacrificial role'. Because the bulk of recent winners are 'Main man' type players - either midfield clearance specialists (Taranto, Prestia, Cotchin x3), goal scorers (Riewoldt x2, Lynch) or a combination of...

Wow, he was the best RICHMOND player 8 times... Now you are saying he wasn't the best at adhering to his role within the team? I'm pretty sure you have claimed numerous times in this thread that Dusty was 'more of a team player' than GAJ and that was one of the reasons you considered him...

Your own club only voted him as the best player in the team twice (2016, 2017). 2/15 = 13% Ablett: 6 B&F in 19 seasons = 31.6% Leigh Matthews: 8 B&F in 17 seasons = 47%

Frost, Impey, Seamus, BMac, Ryan Plenty of options.

We did still have a bloke by the name of Roughead, remember.

Sure. Agree. Dusty still isn't the GOAT though.

You don't make finals without a good home & away season. That is why you need to look at overall performance in both.

If it is about the semantics of the word I chose - then yes, his other seasons were 'great' seasons (not just 'good'). it still doesn't change the fact that many other players around the same time also had 'greater' seasons in every year except 2017. Often, they were also considered more...

Would have been an option to name it after him after that series.

In fact, the 1980's finals KB went absolutely insane: QF: 22 disposals, 6 goals SF: 17 disposals, 8 goals GF: 21 disposals, 7 goals

KB's grand finals: 1967 - 18 Disposals, 3 goals 1969 - 24 disposals, 1 goal 1972 - 29 disposals, 0 goals (3 behinds) 1973 - 26 disposals, 1 goal 1974 - 27 disposals, 0 goals (3 behinds) 1980 - 21 disposals, 7 goals! 1982 - 12 disposals, 3 goals

You might want to look up actual stats before making statements like that. Goal assist stats comparison between Dusty and GAJ: Dusty average across career: 0.73 / game GAJ average across career: 0.76 / game Ablett might not have wanted to play hurt, but he did finish up with 55 more AFL...

We aren't just talking about 'Great' players here. The discussion is about whether Dusty is the 'Greatest'. Once again, I 100% agree that Dusty was a great player, easily in the top 10 players during the time he was active - potentially as high as number 3 behind GAJ and Buddy. This is...

Agree that Dusty was a better finals player than GAJ. If I were to rank the three players you mentioned overall (H&A + Finals): 1. GAJ 2. Buddy 3. Dusty Please note, this is not a slight on Dusty. He was fantastic, and you could argue that if one was to look at ONLY Grand Finals, or even ONLY...

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Dusty was a great finals player, no doubt. He had three fantastic GF performances, but even Richmond supporters would agree that the overall quality of opponents was... low. Anyway, you agree with my point - as a Richmond supporter you rank Dusty above GAJ. Let's see what some other...

It will take a long time, but records are made to be broken. For example, if North Melbourne and West Coast finally start getting double figure wins in a season, Sheezel and Reid are the type of players who could challenge 147. Yes, Matthews' era was more high scoring (meaning goals were easier...

Dusty had many 'good' seasons, but only one truly amazing season (2017). Yes, it was probably the best individual season - in the modern/AFL era with current stat records. The majority of supporters (i.e. non-Richmond supporters) if given the choice would easily take the whole career of GAJ...

Let's play ten Weddles

There is now competition for literally every position on the field. Nobody is 'safe'. Complacency means you'll be playing for Box Hill.

Something tells me that Dimma would relish playing a role on a showboat type player like Papley (who I love to watch do his thing).

I dislike Chris Scott, but bloody hell you have to respect what he has been able to do. Goodwin just seems like a shit bloke, so he gets my vote.

As a neutral I think this will be Freo's year. My ladder predictor had Freo finishing in 2nd behind Brisbane, with the Dogs in the bottom half of the 8. It should be another extremely close season though, so will be very dependent on things like injuries that happen through the year.

I'd be surprised if both Blanck and Serong are at the club in 2026. Not because they don't want to stay, but because they'll get offers from elsewhere.

Definitely FFVII Rebirth for me, with Balatro in 2nd place. Didn't manage to get to Astro Bot, but I suspect it would be in the discussion given how much I loved Astro's Playroom. Its at the top of the backlog pile. Only played a few hours (basically nothing) of Metaphor but it has been...

You don't consider Cyril a small forward?

Yes, he might actually be our best.

Melbourne Demons to rent it from us, because even though we have outgrown it, it is a major upgrade on their current facilities.

So that's how Geelong is trying to rewrite history? You don't get taken to hospital for 'falling asleep'. Let's not forget he already had a history of misbehavior from his previous club also.

The whole team is scarily versatile. Outside of Reeves and Barrass (and ignoring the kids under ~22 who are still finding their place), who else can't be shuffled around to another part of the ground? Even someone 'limited' like Frosty can still play on talls or smalls if needed.