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I know it's probably been mentioned already, but the fact your club extended Ken's contract is absolutely mind boggling. Does anyone here know why Ken's contract was extended? Over on the Crows board, it's been mentioned by someone 'in the know' that Ken has a performance clause in his...

Nick Daicos crowd statistics: Cumulative crowd = 2,703,403 Average crowd = 57,519

Interesting thread. Collingwood have the more feral supporters, but we have more feral supporters than them.

True, which is why I'm surprised to know Geelong supporters were watching our Best and Fairest this year, especially after they've just won a flag.

It's already been 4 years since Hawthorn played finals, and last time they opted for the scorched Earth rebuild saw them miss finals for 5 years before making it back into the top 8. This time, however, it'll likely be at least another 3 years before they're playing finals again, and there's no...

I'd be worried if Hardwick started to become placid and lose his passion. Look at Ken Hinkley, who hasn't shown passion for some time now, with his own captain saying "we lost the fire in the belly" this year. If anyone from our club said "we lost the fire in the belly" I wouldn't be too...

Hawthorn benefited greatly from the old priority pick system, along with Fremantle being stupid enough to trade pick 1 in possibly the greatest draft of all time which everyone knew was going to be a superdraft. With the old priority pick system gone, along with the draft order being diluted by...

I don't see any problem with what he said, especially when taking into account where it was when he mentioned our track record against Geelong in finals. Also, it's not like Hardwick said we've beaten Geelong when it matters like Kennett did.

13 of their 15 cups had to be handed out retrospectively by the AFL so their trophy cabinet wouldn't be a joke.

Jesse Motlop looks to be a talented small forward. Pittonet and De Koning aren't great, but Stanley and Blicavs aren't great either, and that ruck combo just won the flag.

Melbourne have the list to win at least another couple of flags if they get it together on field, their second half of 2022 was a mess caused by too much bathwater being consumed, but I'd back them in to get their mojo back next year.

6 of the top 10 posters with the most posts in this thread are Geelong supporters. You guys just won the flag, why do you care what Hardwick thinks?

Sydney (2 wins 5 losses) and Collingwood (2 wins 1 draw 4 losses) are the biggest grand final chokers in the modern era. Geelong are lucky they got to play Sydney and Collingwood in grand finals, oh and St Kilda and Port Adelaide before that too.

How does this thread have nearly 1000 replies? It was a comment Hardwick made at the Best and Fairest, speaking to the Richmond faithful. What did people expect him to say? That we were no chance of winning the premiership this year? Also have to laugh at those people comparing it to Kennett's...

Whateley and Hocking's rulebook.

If we were like Hawthorn, we'd have traded out of an entire draft to get Taranto, like Hawthorn traded out of the entire 2016 draft to get O'Meara. I still can't believe Hawthorn traded out of a whole draft to get O'Meara, let alone allow themselves to get bent over by Gold Coast of all clubs...

What's the pass mark for Port in 2023? With the list they have along with the easy draw they'll get for finishing 11th, the pass mark should be top 4. Port should definitely finish above Fremantle and Adelaide next year at the very least, given both those sides are still in rebuilding phases.

I bet Brett Ratten is wondering why he got shafted not once, but twice despite having average results similar to Hinkley, who has been given far more slack than Ratten could have ever hoped for. Hinkley's record between 2015-2019 was worse than both Ratten's coaching tenures. Ratten at least...

I have to admit, I do find it ironic that the last two teams to beat Geelong in a grand final have both failed to make the finals the following year.

I'd love to see them miss the 8 again, but knowing they've finally got their shit together off field, along with Brian Cook's track record as CEO at West Coast and Geelong, they'll be contending for premierships in the near future, even if they miss the 8 again next year. I just hope they fail...

We've made finals in 8 of the last 10 years, oppos are dreaming if they think we'll go back to being the rabble we were up until 2010.

I can't believe it's been 3 years since I last updated this... 64 wins 3 draws 30 losses Win percentage = 67.53% Crowd stats (excluding covid affected games) Cumulative crowd (career) = 3,792,056 Average crowd (career) = 48,616 Total games (non covid affected) = 78 Cumulative crowd (MCG) =...

I can't believe this bloke went from being in everyone's AA teams, to becoming a liability and being dropped in the space of a season this year.

I have a feeling another club is going to pick up Stack and help him fulfill his potential, similar to what's happened with Stengle.

Hawthorn did the same thing two decades ago by trading out the likes of Chick, Rawlings, Graham, Hay and Thompson as they embraced the rebuild. Ironically, it was after Schwab had tried to push for a flag before getting sacked for Clarkson, similar to what Clarkson tried to do before getting...

I love how oppos think us getting Taranto and Hopper is the same as Hawthorn getting Mitchell and O'Meara, and that we're destined to return to irrelevance because Hawthorn have. Hawthorn have made finals in 10 of the last 21 seasons, they aren't the powerhouse many people make them out to be...

As much as I hate to admit it, Carlton have finally got their shit together as a football club after two decades of incompetence, with Brian Cook righting the ship as CEO, much like Gale and Peggy did for us after they came on board. Cook's track record speaks for himself, you just have to look...

Why is Gerard Whateley kicking up a stink about Brad Scott taking AFL intel to Essendon, yet he was silent as a church mouse when Steve Hocking took AFL intel to Geelong?

Ken has a good recent track record of turning it around after a bad season as well. Injuries to Dixon and Lycett really hurt their structure this year, and it's hard for Ken to win games when he doesn't have a recognised ruckman.

You joined in 2011, so pot meet kettle.