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That is not going to happen, aside from TDK the core of our list is signed up. Jagga & Walker should be elite players no need for these types of decisions.

Looked like a hamstring not ankle.

Possibly we are yet to receive the latest report may be a few more. Pitto & Walsh certainly more of the same, big question marks on Corey Durdin durability also.

Feels like our injury list is now getting close to last year's levels again before a game has been played. We cannot possibly be any sort of challenger with the current injury toll.

Austin has certainly made a concerted effort to address the issue, Billy Wilson in the prior year draft & giving up two picks for Jagga Smith. The expectation was Smith was going to provide a point of difference to our midfield mix which we do not currently have on our list, have to wait 12mths...

l am a great believer to stick at things you are good at, none of us should confess to be medical experts, Jagga was involved in a very unfortunate incident both for himself and the club & supporters. Let's move on as none of us are experts in this field at all .

Not saying it cannot be a factor in some cases, but it is not one of primary causes of a ACL injury. It seemed very clear the incident occurred in a player collision landing awkwardly. Part of the reason it would intended to manage his mid field time early in the season would be to minimise any...

l was specifically talking about the incident with Jagga, this was a collision incident which clearly impacted his knee the way he fell, fatigue was not a factor. Not saying it cannot be some form of factor in a particular incident but certainly not this one. Again clubs have great information...

Highly unlikely in practice games with high rotations & players being managed etc that fatigue was a factor at all in this particular case, purely bad luck nothing else. Clubs also have great access to data relating to players now and how they should be managed from a workload perspective, not...

Evans has been delisted from two clubs in the past 3 years, hardly a great endorsement. l would say all the SSP would be on par, but the point of difference was key position coverage which we are thin if injuries strike, we have 4-5 options ahead of Evans.

Agree whilst our small forwards have underperformed l would back Motlop & Durdin in this year and further assess, certainly don't see Evans ahead of 3-4 in that role this year.

Agree would be a strange choice with Motlop & Durdin & Fantasia likely to be in front of him. We seem more vulnerable in the event of injuries to key position stocks hence McMahon or Phillips seem more logical. Lose a Weitering or Curnow and we are in trouble.

A formal long term deal has only been put on the table in the last week or so. Need to understand most of these players are guided to a extent by Managers who are seeking a positive outcome. He will stay, if he leaves won't be the Saints.

Absolutely spot on we are not in a strong position with any compensation for TDK, a compensation pick 10-20 is a poor outcome the club knowing his capabilities and upside it is absolute no brainer to lock him away, he is a key piece of any potential premiership challenge in the next 2-3 years...

l was watching a 6-8 game block which he was outstanding. TDK is not just a ruckman he is another midfielder with his capabilities.

We need to be proactive which the club is showing other clubs clearly have a very different view to yourself. He will stay and be paid less than other clubs are offering.

The list management team clearly are of the view he is a priority signing which Austin & Cook & Wright are very capable in this area. Based on the current rules we would not acquire a draft selection which would offset his loss . His form last year was outstanding before injury and was a key...

Absolutely it is the correct decision to make him a very strong offer for him to stay arguing otherwise makes no sense when the next 2-3 years is our opportunity to win a premiership, whilst our top players are in their current age profile. He is our best ruckman by far and losing him would set...

Probably much more of a risk losing him would be a major dent to us challenging for a premiership. Seems a logical decision based on what he showed last year before injury to put the 7 year deal on the table and his capabilities in the next five years.

We have brought in Jagga Smith as a top end talent in the most recent draft and l imagine they are also banking on Cody Walker being a top 5 draft prospect, don't see top tier free agency being a major focus if we can keep bringing in good young talent.

Our list management team would have factored this into our strategy hence why we have gone to the draft the last two years and decided not to pursue Houston.

Motlop & Durdin & Fogarty and Fantasia would be ahead of him, makes much sense to take McMahon or Phillips from a list balance perspective and injury coverage

Major overreaction on here, if his knee is cooked he would not be training at all, he would be getting the necessary treatment, we are not living in the 80's, many players including Doc have had several major knee injuries and are back on track.

People speculating or reliable rumour?

Also need to consider although clubs may have a good idea of the value of the contract they would have no idea of how that is being structured over the term of the contract. There is absolutely no doubt you can structure the long term deals accordingly to the list, we know in a few years...

This isn't a normal situation? Players are head-hunted all the time, Saints have had a crack at De Goey & Brayshaw & Davies Uniacke to name a few similarly TDK two years ago all offered big $ without success. Saints are hardly one of the most attractive clubs to move to. Good clubs don't...

Firstly they are reported numbers, so completely subjective. lf you were the Saints and willing to pay TDK $1.5m try selling that to Rohan Marshall who is a quality ruckman, again broader reasons for going to a club for $. The Saints have a history of offering players strong dollars to come...

Pretty sure most players that elect to leave a club take into account many more factors than purely $. He can still earn very good $ at Carlton and be part of team success that seems alot more attractive than jumping ship purely for $ which l am confident will be likely outcome. lf he does...

Doubt there is much substance to the comments. Any club paying TDK upwards of $1.5m is poorly managed. TDK is much more likely to stay than go, half of the incremental will go to ATO anyway.

The same could be said for Weitering, not sure McMahon is a key position player at Afl level. Phillips would make more sense as not sure there is much faith in Young considering we asked him to explore his options.