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That's all fair and well articulated, but again, I don't necessarily see Carlton as unique in that area. Just using some of the finals contenders, all of these clubs would have a similar argument in terms of the importance of the improvement of their youngsters who are expected to play...

Newcombe is a gun. Would take him at Geelong in a heartbeat, and him vs Walsh is certainly a worthy debate. With that being said, that's probably not the argument you want to be using when Walsh has won a Gary Ayres medal himself. He's proven he can play high quality finals footy more than...

He's got a point. It's the same argument every supporter base will use at this time of year, there's not much substance to it. Carlton's youngsters aren't awful by any means...but just about every club in the league would have a similar (or better) crop that they're pinning their hopes on to...

The practice games end up on Kayo, but you get such shonky camera work and commentary that it's hard to stay invested. Could only deal with 15 minutes of Ed Curnow waxing lyrical about the Blues unprecedented run to losing a preliminary final last year. You'd think they'd just three-peated...

It's a long list, but I'm personally scarred by the Guthrie '23 scenario. Went from 'managed' as a late scratching to out for 17 weeks. Part of me is expecting news of an amputation in the coming weeks for Tanner.

Appreciate the insight as always mate! As others have said, the Bruhn niggles are unfortunate to hear though. The last couple of years have been more than adequate as a young player, but going into year 5 we really do need his endurance to build, even if it's only getting him to the 70-ish%...

As an older brother myself, that's all I took it as. It's something that you can't really explain unless you've experienced it, but from the footy field to the pool table, the older brother tends to have the edge. To everyone else you're just another footballer/average bloke....but in the...

Even if Neale just didn't improve at all - which is unlikely - he'd still give us 35 goals across a full season, marks around the ground, and a secondary ruck option. For a key forward who's literally played 20 games, that's a decent output I would have thought. Certainly worthy of a spot in...

Going by Mr Meow's guideline of just accounting for an 'average' amount of injuries, I have us 5-8th, although a slight dip or jump from that wouldn't surprise me. It's a bit of a cop-out answer I know, but I think that's the reality we live in as we continue to transition our list. I believe...

Similar to Dangerfield in his early days at the club perhaps? Not a bad guy or anything malicious like that, but confident in his abilities nonetheless, which maybe takes teammates some time to adjust to while he's still considered the 'new guy' at the club?

We've been so starved of a consistently competent ruckman that he could kick like Levi Casboult for all I care. If he can compete regularly in the contest and takes marks around the ground, that's all we need.

We really do need Mullin to come on quickly, whether that be as a small defender or tagging mid, especially with Bews' decline that you mention. Hopefully he can do it. The tangibles he has are pretty tantalising, just have to hope he can harness that as a fully fledged footballer sooner rather...

Too early to rule anything out IMO. If he becomes the Martin MkII people expect over the next 24 months, then yeah it's going to cost a fortune. Three firsts and Humphries would be the starting point, assuming Lawson also continues his trajectory. If he doesn't kick on as hoped though, we...

You could argue he already has been, it's just whether they bite the bullet if he starts the year poorly. You don't tend to start as the sub in a preliminary final if players aren't surpassing you.

Fair enough, the point was more so that he's not a midfielder though. He's not, at least not in my view anyway. We'd need one of Clark, Knevitt, or Clohesy to really kick on, potentially even two of them to get him out of the side. The OP left had those names on the fringes, so that's what I...

Little overstated IMO. The club has done an exceptional job to build a real quality group of young talent over the last few years, and navigate the transition from the abyss to a seemingly bright future with this crop. With that being said, our midfield depth looks better on paper/name brand...

Same here. To the ill-informed it makes it appear like there's an alarming pattern of behaviour at the club, when in reality it's one issue with one player, albeit it looks like a serious one. If it's true of course, then KMF deserves the blowtorch. Bruhn shouldn't even be mentioned.

I wouldn't call that Geelong style footy. Not really, anyway. It was for a time of course, mainly the '13-21 era, but it's just not our identity before or since, and the vast majority of our fans hated it as a result. Naturally, if we'd been winning flags or even competing better in finals...

Sure, but that doesn't equate to "clearly the best team in it” does it? It sounds like you don't even know your own point. Should have been, could have been...it's all irrelevant. The reality is we weren't, and NOBODY thought we were. Quite the opposite in fact. FWIW though, I do agree that we...

Yeah, but when you're punching down on main board floggos who probably look like this, is it really worth it? Not you btw Mr Meow, being a fine upstanding Geelong supporter you probably look like GigaChad or something. I don't make the rules.

Is the Carlton board really that bad?

If you listen to some of the stories Hodgey was doing that for his first few years at Hawthorn too.

I thought so too, but I've got a feeling they're really committing to Knevitt this season in an inside/outside role to partner Dempsey. Just through PFD's comments, the late season form, and some of the pre-season vision, it looks like he's gone up a gear and the club are intent on rewarding...

It's a shame Walshy, if you just brought this kind of energy on the main board we could all cut Chief's revenue in half! What do we say Mr Meow? Internet buddy truce?

Yes, and it was so abundantly clear that approximately 80% of people, including this board, had us going out in straight sets or getting pumped in a prelim just 3 weeks prior. '08 without doubt. It was a failure of the highest order, and with a truly great side that should have won at least one...

Reminds me of what we've seen with Neale over the last few years. Even if they don't make it, you can rest easy knowing they gave it all they had.

It's amusing how we have simultaneously blown a once-in-a-lifetime chance at a flag - then improved the achilles heel of the list - and we're suddenly out of the premiership window 6 months later. We were either never supposed to be in the window to begin with, making the "golden opportunity"...