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I bought at the first mention of "would have been a top five pick if not for the knee" so feeling quite good right now

He can join the illustrious ranks of North draftees who were the best of the lot if not for injuries

No one is basing anything off one practice match. Those concerned are basing it off five years of absolute uncompetitive crap, and then after what seemed to be a fairly positive pre-season, all of the same bad habits reappearing the first time we play someone in a non-North jumper. If you want...

We've had posters literally counting how many future AAs our midfield group is going to collect after a couple of match sims. Surely we're not off the train already?

Let him at least try and get 5+ disposals in the VFL first

I don't think he's ever been a high-IQ footballer. He's had one good year and that was playing as a loose halfback in a 3-win team (playing shortened quarters)

Darcy's one of your bois isn't he

If you take out the parts where it was our reserves and the parts where their premiership players were dominating, I think we only lost by two goals

It's just a practice match, we'll flick a switch come the real stuff

We looked great in the intraclub

We haven't had one for 15 years, that's a bit ambitious

You'd do the trade again 100 times.put of 100 but it's also fair to say we haven't had a return on the investment either (through no fault of his own)

Nothing we have done so far screams contract extension. He's been paid extremely well for output so far - maybe if we actually show some on field improvement this year we can discuss an extension.

Do you get paid for this?

If we match he just becomes a standard out of contract player (can stay on those terms, go into the drafts or seek a trade)

We set up really poorly as a unit, and we also give up far too many uncontested intercepts (both through unintelligent forward movement and poor ball use up the ground). So while we look at players individually (such as PC) and think they're applying good pressure by the numbers, generally it's...

There's definitely 22 more accomplished players than him. But better?

There are not 22 players in the comp better than Sheezel. There'd barely be half a dozen

Be interesting to see if the AFL allows us to play them all in the one team

At one point I reckon we led the league in half time brawls started when five goals down

Lucky the Dogs didn't watch that video before trade period or we might have given up pick 2

His exact words were that Sheezel was a shit kick. And he got deservedly roasted for it. Mav's issue is he couldn't be balanced or nuanced in his opinions. Everything had to be hyperbolic or extreme.

Usually the second quarter

He'll average 30 wherever he plays

This acceptance that we were always going to have a sustained period of shitness and there was nothing that could have been done differently is frustrating

I stand corrected, we would have been stupid not to trade for him

We know why we offered four years, it's so they would come. The issue was talent ID.

Apparently it's thinking missing leg is not a thing

No we weren't

I think it's less about who we should have kept on a player by player level and more about doing such a large cut at once (and then replacing with a lot of junk). And making the decision on the back of such unique circumstances of that season. Unless we think that the following five years were...