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    Preview Round 17, 2024 : Geelong v Hawthorn, 4:35pm Sat 6th July, GMHBA stadium

    So happy Lewis is back.
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    Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn - Mabior Chol

    What I have loved most about Chol's game this year is his pressure around the ball. His tackling is excellent and he does a lot of smart tap ons. Was that part of his game back then? If it was, I wasn't aware of it.
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    Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn - Mabior Chol

    Chol is playing very well. Based on his record, it was perfectly legitimate to have doubts about him. He is not the same player he was at the other clubs. What agenda do I have?
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    He said he didn't ask for money after he asked for money. He lied. Cyril did too.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    I don't think you understood the comment.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    Jermaine Miller-Lewis said he never asked for money when in fact: It makes you wonder what else he has lied about.
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    Autopsy Round 12, 2024: Hawks stone the Crows

    That was also my initial impression, but I just re-watched it and there was certainly a bit of edge to it. It went on for a while too.
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    Preview Round 10, 2024 : Port v Hawthorn, 3:20pm Sun 19th May, AO

    Dear better play. And I want Ward back too.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    Indeed, there's nothing inherently racial about the statement. But it's a really hardcore thing to say to somebody, and I want to know if he said it.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    I never said the accused were telling the truth. Your position is so weak you have to make this stuff up. I don't know what's true and what isn't. That's why I want it to go to court and not covered up in a settlement. I really want to know if Clarko told somebody to have an abortion.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    This whole exchange began with my questioning brad sue well's vile attacks on a definitely-guilty Clarko. It sounds like you agree with me that there isn't actually any available evidence to justify that kind of stridency. And no, a claim by the aggrieved doesn't prove anything. People lie...
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    Next time somebody asks for evidence and you don't have any, that's what you say. Say you don't have any. It's very easy to be honest. Don't engage in personal attacks.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    Going to a real court is absolutely the best way of finding out what happened. A goofy mediation followed by a fat payout and a generic apology for "hurt" would be despicable. Hawthorn should not pay to make this go away.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    Of course I've had issues with white players. Worpel was genuine garbage for an awfully long time. You cannot assume something just because I don't post every opinion I have to this forum. Again, though, did I ever say anything about Chol and CJ aside from their playing ability? These comments...
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    You cannot provide evidence so you have to make me the topic. Poor form. My biggest peeve with footballers is inconsistency. Of course you will find me criticising those two, though Chol is much better than CJ. But if you have an issue with a post, quote it and explain your position. Did I...
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    It frustrates you because you don't have the evidence. If you did have evidence, it wouldn't bother you at all that somebody asked for it. This is why I've always wanted it to go to federal court. Get all the claims out in the open in an adversarial environment. Then we will see what's true and...
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    Clarkson thought certain players were in destructive relationships. Why did he think that? Was it true? If that’s all this issue was, it wouldn’t even be worthy of comment. Now if Burt said he heard Clarko tell somebody to have an abortion, then you’d have something. But again, there is no...
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    You have posted one hysterical, vicious comment after another about Alastair Clarkson in this thread. And when you were pressed to show evidence to support your position, you became evasive and coy and desperate to find an escape hatch, declaring multiple times you were done talking about it...
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    I've read plenty of this thread and I have not seen any evidence which proves the allegations. If you have evidence, please show us.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    I read the original reporting when it was published. I didn't see any evidence in there, just claims. What is the primary-source information you are talking about? The claims of the Aboriginal players and their girlfriends? That's not evidence.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    What evidence did the Herald Sun provide?
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    If you have given evidence in this thread to prove the claims, that's great. Please post a link so I can read it. If there is evidence "in public", again, please post a link.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    There could be many reasons, but it's not necessary to speculate. If you want to say something happened, prove it. I want to see the evidence. As far as I can tell, brad sue well doesn't have any.
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    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    Do you have any evidence to support the Aboriginal claims? What makes you think they are telling the truth?
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    Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn Pick 44: Blake Hardwick, re-signs for 5 years!

    One of our great workhorses. Love him.
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    Box Hill 2024 game replays (links only no chat)

    I just downloaded it using Downie, a great Mac app. I don't know the best Windows alternative.
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    Unofficial Preview Round 1, 2024: Bombers v Hawks, MCG 1:10pm Sat 16th March

    Very happy that Ward is playing.
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    Unofficial Preview Round 1, 2024: Bombers v Hawks, MCG 1:10pm Sat 16th March

    I hope we can steal this one. I was just looking at our fixture and we could very easily lose our first five games. It could be brutal start to the season.
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    Preview 2024 Preseason: Hawks v Dogs in Tassie

    Chol was never going to be a good player.
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    Training 2024 Preseason reports and discussion

    Take a shot every time the lady commentator says "ah" if you want to die today.
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