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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    Surely police will run with the presumption of death if they have an extended disappearance, especially if a weapon with DNA evidence was found? Like how search and rescues turn into recoveries after a set period?
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    If I remember rightly the comment about the damaged car was prior to his arrest. Perhaps at that time hit and run was on the cards or the use of the vehicle as a weapon, etc?
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    I think the vehicle could be of interest purely because it was likely his means of transport to and from the scene if he has in fact been involved in Samantha’s death. Just like his phone, his clothes, etc are all pieces of property that ought to be examined, same goes for his car
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    I don’t think it’s so much that it couldn’t have been an accident but they’re going to try to prove that it wasn’t. I imagine it’s difficult to do that especially if the vehicle is involved, but if they’re going to try to prove reckless murder as opposed to intentional they might be able to tick...
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    That’s within the magistrates rights, so I just can’t discount the idea entirely
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    Two options are possible: intentional murder and reckless. Intentional murder is committing an act with the intention of killing or very seriously injuring someone. Reckless is committing an act without regard to the probability that someone will die as a result. We haven’t had any indication of...
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    I believe the magistrate would require a higher standard of proof/more evidence to send the case to trial than police would require to charge
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    I should clarify, defence were on time. But the prosecution and POS, who both attended virtually, I believe were late. Mr White (I believe his name is?) mightn’t have been 5 min late but I believe POS would’ve been. I was surprised they managed to get things wrapped up before 10:15 considering
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    Good question. I do believe it was on POS’ side so tech issues/access to the room like underarrest mentioned. The magistrate didn’t issue a warning or anything of the sort
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    It was decided during the committal this week that they would also be heard on the new November date (the 14th?). But the charges haven’t been confirmed and may not be publicly released as the defence is objecting to journos requests for disclosure. Erin Pearson from the Age stood up as the...
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    It was decided during the committal this week that they would also be heard on the new November date (the 14th?). But the charges haven’t been confirmed and may not be publicly released as the defence is objecting to journos requests for disclosure. Erin Pearson from the Age stood up as the...
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    Due to time constraints the application for the release of info about the summary offences to journos was adjourned to the November date. And notably (I believe) the defence opposed the release of the charges to the media. I suppose it could be to ensure potential jury members aren’t biased by...
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    It feels somewhat safe to assume that something circumstantial led to surveillance and subsequently location of more concrete evidence concerning, for instance, his car. Enough for police to charge murder. But that surely would not be enough for a magistrate to commit him to trial. Regarding...
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    My concern (amongst others) re the adjournment is the state of SM for forensic purposes, but more importantly for recovery for her family. Outside of that, I’d rather see a thorough process for all involved than a rushed one
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    I don’t believe so. I imagine POS and SM’s families knew they were requesting adjournment
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    I believe it was called unprecedented by both sides
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    It’s easy to believe they have nothing when the police given so little up, and when the publicly executed searches have seemed to show up nothing. But the defence (I believe) said the brief of evidence is exceptionally big. Whether or not it persuades the magistrate to send it to trial is...
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    Very curious as to whether or not SM appears in the footage, and whether any of the available footage is from the Murphy’s home security system
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    That’s what bothers me about this. How can they have so much? And is that in reference to footage deemed relevant already or the entirety of what the police have collected? Does CCTV include dash cam footage whether it be his or others offered by people in the area? The defence calling the...
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    Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

    Long time lurker, first time poster. I attended the hearing today. Disappointed about the adjournment out of self interest but amazed by the reported magnitude of evidence. I’m curious if anyone here expected an adjournment today?
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