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With Mummy getting a contract for 2020, you can pencil him in for top spot in next year's countdown.

2015 round 1 side. Clem Smith, Simon White, Cameron Wood, Tom Bell, Kristian Jaksch, Andrejs Everitt. Probably not the same amount of plodders but a big difference is that we had a severe lack of stars and our youth was non-existent.

Our list in 2015 was miles worse than yours in 2010.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=9818#hd Essendon Attribute Carlton 186.1cm Height 187.9cm 86.7kg Weight 86.5kg 25yr 3mth Age 23yr 4mth 78.8 Games 58.3 Hmm good try.

Much more promising than your youth. Brownlow contender. I'm dying of laughter over here. One game mate. One game. jooce8891 beat me to it, literally dozens of examples of a player doing a blind turn this year. Just some notes for you. You're an absolute troll trying to say Ellis would...

Terrible list management

2 years ago, a first rounder and probably a decent player. Now, a second rounder? Maybe a third.

Where's Starchamber

Daniher had one(1) AA worthy season. He has been a cooked turkey since then. Two first rounders is well and truly overs and Dodo was an idiot for turning it down.

How's the past 10 years gone for your mob? You only chose two of these, and passed on the other two exactly like every other team in the league. Fantasia was a good pick I'll pay that. Tippa was given to you when you took prohibited substances and lost three quarters of your side to suspension...

Don't think we're in the position to criticise them. They identified needs, found the players, and most importantly they got the deals done. Sure they overpaid for Hill, but that's the game. Eagles overpaid for Kelly, the pies with Treloar, the Dons with Shiel.

I wanna, but the last 20 years have beaten me down

It is absolutely imperative that we find a genuine small pressure goal kicking forward in the draft. Not a Polson, not a Darcy Lang, not a Michael Gibbons. A small forward. The Martin trade was a balls up, you pay for quality. We now open up the chance of another team taking him. Having no...

Are there people seriously suggesting we trade up to Melbourne's pick and take Martin there? Lord almighty.

What's stopping him from playing a decent year in 2020 and then asking for more than we want to pay him?

People baulked at paying Cogs a million plus, but are fine with overpaying for Martin in the PSD, which we don't even know will happen, delusional.

Yep exactly, but apparently not being glowing about this result is melts.

He went into the trade period with absolute tunnel vision and zero plan B. He failed to procure talent in the areas we are desperate to fill. That's a failure.

No plan B. Not even a plan A- Every other club involved in the trade period out performed us. The mental gymnastics by some trying to turn this into a positive is insane.

Lol as if he lasts to those picks.

The draft falls away after Rowell and Anderson. We have the 3rd pick in the PSD, no guarantee we get Martin. Don't sugarcoat this.

Silvagni's position is untenable. You can't go into a trade period with a definitive need and have 2 perfect players nominate you and then leave with nothing.

What a joke.

Saints getting deals done. Could teach a lesson to a few clubs

Getting very nervous now.

Doesn't sound good re: Papley. Jake Niall going with Sydney not wanting to offer pick 5 in the Daniher deal.

He takes the incredibly vacant spot of running defender, which we haven't had since Yarran. Yep. Definitely need to make a serious acquisition in the next 12 months. Hopefully we have a go at Wines.

Can someone please DM me the temple group, I'm really interested in having a laugh at his delusion.

Christensen?

Cedric Cox?