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    Media Rights..and why NRL has no chance.

    Your maths doesn't quite follow. Fox gets about 240 hours worth of NRL content a year (5 games of 2 hours each most weeks for 26 weeks, though with less games during Origin) for which it pays $42m in cash and contra. It gets about 264 hours worth of AFL content a year (4 games of 3 hours each...
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    Amusing Newspaper Headlines

    When Inverness Caledonian Thistle upset Celtic in the Scottish Cup a few years ago: Super Cally are fantastic, Celtic are atrocious
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    they are secondary sources in that they are web pages that give no source to their claims. But yes, if it makes you happy I'll concede that the Canterbury AFL and whoever put together the NZ AFL wikipedia page were wrong on the year that Melbourne rules was first played in NZ. Perhaps you should...
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    Secondary sources, but ok, so a Wellington team was playing Melbourne Rules (against who?) but switched to rugby rules in 1871. still, the notion of Australian Rules being widespread in NZ in 1870-1874 during Croke's tenure is thoroughly debunked
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    No I read those. Back in those days each football club essentially had its own rules and they would negotiate on the rules before each game. When they say the rules were a mixture of soccer and Melbourne rules, it more means that the rules they used had elements of soccer and Melbourne rules...
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    Expansion How will Melbourne Storm survive?

    Even if it is a $6m loss, News Ltd takes $8 to 10m out of NRL profits, which it then uses to partially subsidise the Storm. So the Storm will survive. If not owned by News Ltd, then owned or at least subsidised by the NRL itself. If the NRL was clear of News Ltd, it could take the money it...
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    so you want to claim that the form of football played at Christ College was Aussie Rules?
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    saw that earlier, but it makes no mention of when Australian football was first played in NZ except for saying there were 36 clubs by 1882
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    wikipedia gives it as 1876, the Canterbury (NZ) AFL gives it as the 1890s. I was being charitable. I'm not sure what Blainey's source is. You would think though that if Blainey found a record of Australian Football being played in Otago in the 1860s then the Canterbury AFL would have been able...
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    It's pretty similar to the Marn Grook debate IMO. The Marn Grook myth is thus: Wills grew up in country Victoria, so he must have seen local Aborigines playing Marn Grook, which later led to him returning from rugby school and playing a key role in devising a form of football which has nothing...
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    A rather bizaare suggestion. A guy spends 4 years in NZ, so therefore he must have been exposed to Aussie Rules. Any evidence for that? Didn't think so.
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    Oxford dictionary has it originating in northern Ireland. It's not really understantable that the etymology of the word mark is disputed, given that it was in use in other countries and other sports for catching the ball in a game of football. It would be a pretty massive co-incidence for...
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    Expansion Truth about AFL Propaganda

    I find that etymology pretty implausible. Not quite as bad as the claims about the word 'mark' coming from Marn Grook, but still pretty implausible. Far more likely barrack came from shouting at someone, similar to its English use.
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    Expansion 41% of Australians watch AFL on TV.

    These figures are quite correct in what they are, I don't take issue with them at all. They are the number of people who say they watch each sport "occasionally" or "all the time". But these aren't really useful figures as they don't take into account how many watch occasionally and how many...
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    Expansion NRL FTA ratings on Sat night ?

    not quite Professor, Albury is actually part of the Victoria regional TV ratings area.
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    Expansion NRL FTA ratings on Sat night ?

    you are being a bit disengenuous here. You are correct that metros plus aggregated regionals doesn't count those people in Vic + SA + WA + NT + Tas. But you aren't including the population of NSW and Qld that are also outside the NNSW, SNSW and Qld TV ratings areas. I don't have an exact...
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    Expansion 41% of Australians watch AFL on TV.

    of course more people watch AFL "occasionally". People in Australia have far more opportunity to occasionally watch AFL as it goes Free to Air into every state. People in Sydney have the opportunity to watch the odd game of AFL. On other hand, people in Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne etc get no...
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    Expansion NRL FTA ratings on Sat night ?

    most of the people who care about City Country are in, wait for it, the Country. but their TV ratings don't count, right guys?
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    Expansion NRL giving away free tickets again.

    Metros plus aggregated regionals (SNSW, NNSW, Vic, Qld) are the much better measure: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10814026#post10814026
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    Expansion NRL threatens raid on AFL heartland

    they are true, but not quite the full story News Ltd fund the Storm in the form of sponsorship guarantees. News Ltd underwrite the costs of the Storm, but they also pocket the sponsorship revenue that the team generates. That's why it says "Sponsorship: N/A". In fact the money News Ltd use...
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    Expansion Lovers of English Football codes on Big Footy

    bwahahahahahahahahaha more blinding insights from Jim Poulter, or is this "research" from someone who retains some credibility?
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    Expansion Lovers of English Football codes on Big Footy

    I think it is discredited, due to the complete lack of any evidence for it, and the huge pile of evidence against it. the lack of an offside rule in Marn Grook is more becuase there was no goal players were kicking towards. Descriptions of it state that it was more a pastime of kicking the...
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    Expansion The code tussle in Queensland this Friday

    That's a good point, although it is pretty well known in the industry that 10 and 7 don't actually make a profit on AFL broadcasts per se. But what it allows them to do is give them leverage in making their advertising rates as a whole higher. I've made a similar point before about the ads per...
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    Expansion Lovers of English Football codes on Big Footy

    haha I can't work out if you are being serious or not, but I'll assume you are. The Marn Grook myth is totally and utterly discredited. The idea that the mark is distinctive to Australian football is also a myth, and really only someone that has no knowledge of any other football code could...
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    Expansion Lovers of English Football codes on Big Footy

    Well to be fair Australian Rules Football evolved from English public school games as well, but speaking for myself, it is because I am interested in AFL expansion because I am interested in the business of sport. AFL are currently looking at expanding into NRL areas. If the NRL had announced...
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    Expansion The code tussle in Queensland this Friday

    It's funny how you guys seem to think that regional TV ratings are some kind of NRL conspiracy. Yes, there are some overlaps between the regional markets and the metropolitan markets on the Central Coast and the Gold Coast (as in fact there are overlaps in Victoria). Believe it or not...
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    Expansion TV rights - the truth.

    Hardly going to come out and say how screwed over they were are they? I think it probably is against the trade practices act. For example News Ltd's NRL board appointee Ian Philip admitted in the C7 case that he never would have voted to accept an offer for NRL TV rights from C7 "regardless of...
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    Expansion How the West will be won

    there's no Victorians in the NRL because Victorians don't play much rugby league. there's no New Zealanders in the AFL because New Zealanders don't play much australian rules football
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    Expansion How the West will be won

    How many NZ raised and developed players are in the AFL?
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    Expansion TV rights - the truth.

    So you are saying that the total advertising revenue from 2 million people in regional Queensland is very very small and less than that from 1 million people in Adelaide and can therefore be ignored? I'd love to know where this "myth" about the regionals has been "exploded" because it is...
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