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Huh? I don't get the disagreement.

Grlj is still probably the player I'd most like us to land; but I maintain he'll go closer to the top end; doubt Hawks R1 will be enough. He's suffered majorly this season from being played behind the ball. He's not a natural at the outside sweeping role and his athletic strength isn't run and...

Sam Grlj playing for Richmond VFL this weekend, which will probably just continue to make him hard to evaluate tbh.

Who?

Still really not a big fan of Lindsay for us; but with such a weak top end I could understand the best available approach if the discrepancy is too big to ignore. At least he's as ill-suited for us as Duursma and I'm much more confident of him being a solid 200 gamer. I wasn't aware of Dalton...

Still no Sam Grlj in the CTL this weekend?

Retiredbattler sup

Head recruiter is Duane Massey, based in SA.

I've never understood the logic that we'd be especially into a given SA prospect because Massey is based there. And whatever sense it could be true in, it's surely a bad thing since you'd want that presence to have effect in Vic instead.

I've watched all the champs games. So I'd just reiterate the same point.

Maybe, but speed of ball trajectory (and hand to boot) is bigger concern than accuracy/reliability. Cumming has an awkward and slow ball drop on his right side and you can see his kicks have high hang time.

Cumming's shonky kicking is a concern re spending a top pick; super promising other than that. Athletic testing will be interesting too.

And in September he still had him at 6. Meanwhile at least as early as August I was saying we should definitely take him at 3 and he could easily go pick 1. Listen to the beacon. On which -- been saying that Cumming and Grlj are the most noteworthy targets for us beyond Sharp. The former is...

I must be wrong. At least, depressing if I'm not. He sounds legit mentally deficient.

Did I mis-hear, or did the commentators just make reference to one of them being a recruiter at some point? edit - 'turnover city'....'turnover city'....'turnover city'..... 'they're turning over city atm'. Lol.

Don't think there's going to be many useful takeaways from this match (or the champs in general really).

It's wild to me that people watch a game like last night and are still determined to land a behind-the-ball kicking player.

Lol wtf

He never looked elite. He looked like a solid, maybe-best-22 find and people got silly because 'oh we rated him top 20 but he slid to the end of the draft' and confused his relative value with absolute value. And then, surprise, the weaknesses that saw him get to the last pick of the draft come...

Just take the whole SA midfield. Cumming, Sharp, Barker. Jack Cook later on for the hell of it.

Urgh. So prohibitive for evaluating players.

More just general draft related, but why has Grlj barely been playing? School footy bs?

'that's the thing with holding the ball, I reckon they just to take the interpretation out' right.

Rioli wasn't top 10 in the agility in his draft year.

You can give the seed adequate water and nutrition or deprive it. But the germ is what it is.

Stop making me re-live the trauma of last year's trade/draft. Allan is fine and he'll be an AFL player on athleticism but he's just another Ginbey/Duggan type. If we roll into this year's draft and demonstrate once again that we have no idea how to identify actual midfield/stoppage craft my...

Yeah I was being a bit obtuse; I get the appeal obviously. Re Lindsay, as I said, I'd happily have him if he was our third selection taken. My problem is taking a guy who's suited most to playing behind the ball/being fed it, regardless of elite skills. Re Rodriguez, I'm just generally a...

I think trading down in a really advantageous way always seems more feasible in theory. Realistically it tends to mean pick 2 for two picks in the 8-15 range, which statistically is just a bad move. It's too early to be concrete about specific preferences; but like I said, I don't really get...

Definitely shaping up to be an awkward draft to have picks 1 and 2. Not keen on Lindsay unless it's with our third pick taken. Still maintain Grlj looks like a top prospect and he'll be up there if he goes on with early season form. Big watch on Cumming too, though his dodgy kicking action is...

What am I supposed to be seeing in Rodriguez? At this stage he's a big 'don't want' for me.