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Would anyone on the planet be contrite when confronted by Alastair Clarkson, of all people?

Between them, Brett and Michael Voss won three premierships, a Brownlow, and had five AA appearances.

Saints will be hoping Freo finish lower than them, which is a points upgrade for academy picks.

But you did get a more than fair offer which got knocked back, which has given this thread a lot of life. That's the topic at hand.

To be fair, the thread wouldn't be this long if Geelong had just accepted the overs offer they already got.

Lyon for Henry, straight swap, who says no?

Adrian, is that you?

We already had pick one the year we picked Riewoldt, so really we would've missed out on Kosi. Handy player, good guy, but not Riewoldt.

Chris Judd was a priority pick at 3 in a year where West Coast already had pick 3 to start with. So without any priority picks handed out that year, West Coast would've picked... Chris Judd. They would've missed out on Sampi, though. Jack Darling was a second round priority pick at pick 26. Meh.

Is Dodoro moving to North or something?

If it's "same same" for us, then it's better to not hand over a good pick to Essendon and just take the compo. No sense in helping a rival for next to nothing in return.

I'd be surprised if anyone is confused about pick 13 not existing without the increased compo, I think it's more about whether St Kilda want to feed a rival club a good pick if the return is just Shiel and a pick downgrade.

Easy mistake to make when most sensible people understand that players generally don't enter free agency for a pay cut.

Here's a pearler:

Much more sense in that. Essendon improve our compensation, we bump up the offer for Shiel (probably worth a third, we hand over a second). Essendon give more money to Gresham, which makes him happy, and can do that easily with Shiel's contract off their books. You get a better pick, we get a...

That makes a lot more sense than the idea that this whole "win/win rort" thing just finishing with Essendon paying more for Gresham to improve a pick they get straight back. Great result for Essendon, but it takes a lot of the win/win out of it for St Kilda who would be jumping through hoops...

The threat of matching would mostly be to push up Essendon's offer this year if they really want him, which improves our compo. Obviously, as SaintsSeptember mentioned, having to match the years of the contract would be the risk/sticking point.

He's also an RFA, so if the offer from Essendon is a pay cut can't we just match and keep him for another year?

Gresham is crap but Essendon are going to pay him a whole lot of money so that St Kilda can get a better pick to give back to Essendon for Shiel who is crap and also old. Makes perfect sense to me.

I wish the current Saints team had some "just guys" like Fisher and Dempster running around. Sam Gilbert would slot right into the current trend of intercept/rebound defenders (even if he occasionally made me want to pull my hair out), and Jason Gram (apparently) plodded his way to almost...

"Hello, Centrelink?"

If that's the requirement for calling this game shit: What a shit Friday night game.

They have.

I mean, you did respond to a guy saying that developing/utilising our first round players would move us closer to success, so development is very much a point of conversation. But again, why is a point of difference required? Teams that develop/utilise players better play better football and win...

And part of winning premierships isn't developing players and getting the best out of them? I'm not sure I understand your point.

Why does there need to be a point of difference? Clubs want to develop and utilise talent correctly, St Kilda can improve by doing that. If you need a point of difference, not every club will do it. Obviously St Kilda hope Lyon will help them get the most out of these players through his coaching.

So I'm a pedant because you typed the literal opposite of what you intended to say? If you want someone to understand your point of view, take a moment to make sure you're not expressing the complete opposite of it. Anyway, it's still weird to even bring Hird up, especially if you agree that...

You said the complete opposite. Proof read, my friend.

I read a post suggesting that a return of Ross to the Saints is somehow almost as embarrassing as a return of Hird to Essendon. Is that not what you were saying?

Plenty of blokes with all sorts of talent never get near a grand final. Do you think Gold Coast are a lock for a flag? If Max goes and doesn't win one, is it a waste of his talent? Moving clubs never got Lockett a flag.