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    Expansion PNG Joins NRL .......... Options For AFL ??

    For better or worse, I live in Wests Tigers territory. Justin Olam plays for the Tigers and he was raised in PNG. I think he came to Australia about 10 years ago (he is 30 now). Couldn't tell you about players in other teams. Edit: Just pulled this from Wiki Justin Olam was born and raised in...
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    Expansion PNG Joins NRL .......... Options For AFL ??

    To be fair the Australian Government does support rugby union in the Pacific, and provides funding to the Super Rugby team from Fiji - https://www.pacificaussports.gov.au/news/further-funding-fiji-and-fijiana-drua What's interesting is that the Australian Government also provides funding to the...
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    Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

    Not saying it wasn't a sell out but noting that that crowd was about 5000 under capacity: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-29/maildas-lose-to-brazil-in-emotional-clare-polkinghorne-farewell/104662142 "The official crowd number was 47,501 with a few empty pockets of seats in the lower levels...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    There are a few nice numbers in this article: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/the-staggering-numbers-behind-lions-invasion-and-why-it-s-just-the-start-20241201-p5kutv.html I've just picked out a few. There have been some comments here about whether this thread title is appropriate...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    I was up on the Gold Coast recently for Pearl Jam, and was pretty impressed with the Suns' facilities. I don't know about the accuracy of this information (maybe Wookie does?) but it suggests that the federal government put in 15 million for the Suns' training facilities. Again, will leave it...
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    Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

    Random trivia, here is the best attended day for each city's Test last summer: Perth - v Pakistan - day 2 - 17666 Melbourne - v Pakistan - day 1 (Boxing Day!) - 62167 Sydney - v Pakistan - day 1 - 33905 Adelaide - v West Indies - day 1 - 26361 Brisbane - v West Indies - day 2 - 29216 And for...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    Speaking of WA, just read that the WA government will be introducing rugby league into the curriculum of up to 24 high schools in the Perth metropolitan area.... wtf...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    I have been up on the Gold Coast for a couple of days and was at the Pearl Jam concert at People First stadium last night. Eddie did a big call out to the Suns and received a huge cheer for it. That's a good enough metric for me. Thread closed! ;)
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    Let's not forget, footy has been played in Brisbane for much longer than rugby league. It is tempting to think that it only really arrived with the Bears (well, Brisbane adjacent) but it has always been a part of the city's fabric, and before football competitions were nationalised, it was as...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    On balance it is okay. Sitting down is the detail that "membership of the Lions has soared to more than 63,000, with 70,000-plus members expected next season..." That's a great message to get out there. Just a shame about the headline, but seriously, the content seems to be lifted from a couple...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    I'm usually a lurker, so excuse me for coming in two days in a row. Just wanted to share that headlines like this do not help us: ‘WTF?’: Lions fans outraged at ‘premiership tax’ price hikes The Brisbane Lions have been accused of slugging loyal fans with a “premiership tax”, with member seat...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    I just did some googling, and don't have any answer whatsoever for 2024, but did find the following in the Broncos 2023 Annual Report. Guess we will need to wait another 6 months for a definitive answer for this year? Make of this what you will. Total membership, ticketing, corporate sales and...
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    Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

    Putting aside the merits of sports diplomacy, rugby league has been a pretty constant, bipartisan part of relations with our Melanesian neighbours for the last few Prime Ministers: Rudd, here handing out a Queensland jersey to the PNG PM: Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd describes himself...
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    Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

    The big opportunity for AFL is not so much the west (which isn't to say that the Lions' presence in Springfield isn't a great long-term play) but in the south-west, in a sweeping arc from Yarrabilba through Jimboomba to Flagstone. This is a massive growth area, and it doesn't really appear to be...
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    Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

    Didn't they both start in the same year? Either way, both are good causes, so get behind one, or both, them. Do yourself a favour!
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    The crowd ended up being 11,466, although it is fair to say that the weather kept about 3-5k away. Things are looking up on the Coast.
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    Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

    The thrust of your post is spot on, but I clicked on the link you shared to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. These were the stories on the site that you shared that related to the NRL double-header: National Rugby League of Australia plays games at Allegiant Stadium | Sports (reviewjournal.com)...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    You are right to note that the effect of the Magic Round, and of multiple venues. The Titans' average at Robina was 17054. The Broncos' and Dolphins' averages can also be disaggregated, as they played home game at multiple venues. Broncos home H/A games @ Lang Park: 36008 (no Magic Round...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    No, you are reading that correctly. In 2023, home averages: Lions - 27455 Broncos - 33793 Dolphins - 25562 Suns - 13733 Titans - 19536 Home finals averages: Lions - 36016 Broncos - 51235
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    Have a look through the reports lodged with companies house. For example, in 2022, Wigan had 27% of their revenue coming from "matchday", which is about £1.7 million: application-pdf The Bronco's matchday, according to their 2022 annual report was $17.1 million: 230413---2022-annual-report.pdf...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    Not disputing you. Read further up, though - my response is to a comment comparing the revenues of those three Superleague clubs with some Queensland clubs.
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    I did a quick bit of googling, and here is what I found for 2022: Wigan Warriors: Turnover £6.6m, Loss £1.15m - Wigan Warriors make loss in 2022 Super League season | TheBusinessDesk.com Leeds Rhinos: Turnover £11.5m, Loss £1.44m - Leeds Rhinos grow turnover and reduce losses following major...
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    Play Nice 2023 Non AFL (or lower league) Sports Industry Discussion

    Just a note on the politics. Whether we agree with the policy or not, the current government cannot take credit for rugby league being used as a tool in foreign affairs. Indeed, Scott Morrison was much more hands on than Anthony Albanese. PM's XIII v Fiji: Curtis Scott injury the only bad news...
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    Spot on. It is completely accurate to say there are 6 AFL teams in Cairns, or 7 AFL teams in the Cairns District. Just thought it was a bit weird to talk about in Cairns for the AFL and then include a Port Douglas team for one code but not the other.
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    AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

    Quick fact check - there are 11 teams in the CDRL competition, not 5. Even if you were trying to do a like for like with Cairns only, you have included Port Douglas in the AFL competition, but excluded Mossman / Port Douglas from the rugby league competition. (Mossman, for those without local...
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    Play Nice Admin, Finance, Members, Ratings, Crowds, Policies - Please refer to each sports own boards

    Out of curiosity, what are the registration numbers for SE Qld? An, albeit brief, look at annual reports for AFL Qld and the QRL only showed statewide figures.
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    Play Nice Admin, Finance, Members, Ratings, Crowds, Policies - Please refer to each sports own boards

    Devil's advocate: as someone who lives in Brisbane (despite my user name!) the Broncos average to date is 38k and the Lions 20k. I've never heard fake crowd noises at the Gabba or at Suncorp, and yes, I've been to both. And to play devil's advocate to my devil's advocate, I just pulled those...
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    Analysis Single Malt GC Sporting Updates (TITANS NEWZ)

    Last night: Suns: 12710 Titans: 17647 2017 averages to date: Suns: 12710 (1 game) Titans: 14406 (3 games)
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    The Neverending Issue of the Gabba Pitch

    Either way, cricket has more bums on seats... for now!
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    The Neverending Issue of the Gabba Pitch

    Gabba crowds in 2016: Cricket - 191067 AFL - 187816 Details: Cricket crowds at the Gabba in calendar year 2016 Heat: 27507, 33783, 34601 Aus v NZ Test: 66325 Aus v India ODI: 28851
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