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Maybe go back to the beginning. I don’t think he took the moral high ground at all. The first suggestion was Geelong are more relaxed to off field drinking indiscretions than Adelaide. That to me is taking moral high ground. Hence it was simply pointed out that Worrell still got a game after...

Yep. 100% I admit these events over last weekend have reminded me exactly why I used to and still do hate Hawthorn. I can admit it, because I have a sense of reality. Unfortunately there are three flogs in this thread, all supporting one team, who all want to celebrate the behaviour of every...

So it’s the line according to Hawk officials, fans and past players? Talk to me at Lords champ.

Who listens to Slobbo? Hird came out and publicly accepted Mitchell’s apology and blamed the media. That’s probably how I would suggest Hawk greats and coaches should have handled this one, instead they went the victim and outrage route. Hence, why we are here.

Victims. So many Hawk victims here who just engaged in some friendly pre-game banter. You’ve swayed me. It will be refreshing to see how the vicitim complex era delivers under Mitchell, where they espouse sporting values above all else and educate other clubs on proper and fair conduct. It...

Everyone has basically said Ken was a clown. Read Barrett or Connelly’s take. No one comes out of this great. Least of all the Hawk coach and former greats sooking it up.

Didn’t reference Port or Hinkley, but anyone with half a brain knows what the inference was. God you guys are deluded. Keep chugging the Hok Ball Kool Aid.

The AFL didn’t either. They did fine Port 20k though. But then again there wasn’t ex Essendon players in the media and Essendon officials working themselves up to hysterics over it.

You’re a diehard. End of the day, even blokes in Hawk guernseys have acted like $&#%. Along with the 17 other clubs. I watched Joel Selwood massage peoples faces when there was no need. I watched Chris Scott let Ballantyne get under his skin and respond. I watched Scarlett put one on Ballantynes...

I think we will agree to disagree, but in regard to your theory about how the media has twisted the commentary here. I want to clarify that I watched the post game and PC directly after the game. I was amazed at the narrative that first Hodge outlined in commentary surrounding the incident, but...

Agreed. Ken’s action were classless. Some want to give him the benefit of the doubt of being emotional. I accept this, but tend not to agree with this a valid defence here. I think as a coach you should act better and be held to higher standards. Especially in the heat of battle. It was...

Should work in Hawthorn PR department. You are doing everything you are labelling me of. It wasn’t aggressive from Ken. The age thing has zero to do with it. Words have clear inferences and his choice of words was to exaggerate what Ken did and minimise what Jack did pre-game. Mitchell had...

Great summation. Pretty spot on, just need to add Hodge and Lewis in the last sentence and you’ve nailed the majority of the footballing public’s take sans Hok Ball fans.

Is this the Jordan Lewis spin where he disrespected the 300 game guard of honour because of something said 1-2 minutes before? Honestly, if I’ve added some sauce, it’s because there was already plenty of mayo embellished by the three amigos in comms and in the PC.

I watched the PC in it’s entirety. Playing Ginnivan as a victim against a much older man is ridiculous. Labelling what occurred on the field as aggressive is ludicrous. Maybe you have commentated on the PC, without seeing what happened on the field… By all means support your captain, club and...

I agree, and that was directed at a certain poster who thinks it’s only an issue now because Hawthorn are the current best exponents of it. It’s long been a point of conjecture. Fans and officials of Hawthorn and Collingwood were some of the most vocal in putting this issue front and centre to...

Was it over when Mitchell was sooking and bending the truth in his presser about the aggressive older man and a young innocent Jack? Or was that still part of the game? Ken’s actions were classless, but Mitchell’s were worse and he had a whole 20-30 minutes to think about it.

Yep, agree. It’s not like Geelong fans ever copped it and had one of their greatest players ever continually referred to as a cheat. In fact it only became an issue when Joel Selwood was playing despite happening years prior and years after, so lose the victim complex. Meanwhile, Hodge, Lewis...

Couldn’t agree more

As Buckley said when Lewis went down this path post game, there was pretty clear separation between the two incidents and if there wasn’t, it was because Sicily wanted to continue it. Again in the post match, it’s suddenly not Jack Ginnivan being the arrogant, brash and out spoken player that...

There was some slight exaggeration with his choice of words. I loved the outrage of his peers, Lewis and Hodge, even more so. C’mon boys, you played under Alastair Clarkson who couldn’t get out the way of an on-field scrap. I mean wasn’t that part of the Hawthorn DNA? I guess now they are...

Was interested to see the stat pre-game that Hawthorn now receive more high free kicks than any other team. After years of Selwood vitriol, while Puopolo and Breust were plying their trade, it would be interesting to hear the perspective on it now. Dylan Moore is my current favourite. And...

Congratulations on the win tonight. But, might be a time to revisit your position on this if you don’t think 50,000 rabid fans create a significant home ground advantage and were a factor in the result tonight, especially when the stakes are at their highest. Food for thought, but again well...

Correct. Which is what I have said all along. I haven’t disputed our significant home ground advantage when playing at GMHBA, I’ve merely pointed out that we are disadvantaged playing home games against big Melbourne clubs at the G, who enjoy a benefit by virtue of having a large fan base. Which...

So it is an arbitrary number? I think you and doppleganger are inadvertently proving my point. After x games there is no away disadvantage, but only up to x games and Geelong just happen to exceed this, so they don’t suffer any away disadvantage. Like I said earlier, I think it is all pretty...

Well I think by you own definition you concede the point. Familiarity doesn’t exist in a yes or no form. Familiarity exists on a scale with some teams more familiar with venues than others. That would lend itself to the very notion that the team with the greater familiarity to the venue has an...

Are rounds 21 and 22 this year going to be neutral games for Richmond? Played at a stadium you play home games at. I don’t think there is an arbitrary figure or number of games that you can put on it.

Yeah, I think there is a degree of conjecture on this one. The statement itself I have no issue with and there are certainly elements of the current stadium arrangements that are an advantage to Geelong and the current league structure in the H and A season, no doubt. But I can’t accept the...

Different definitions of shit I believe. Have won at least 7 games since 1973 when we won 6. You will have a tough time finding another club that has won 7+ games every year since 2000. In fact, it would be impossible. That’s 50+ years of never bottoming out and being competitive. No other club...

You can’t honestly believe that. In a competition that really only recognises success as being in the form of a Premiership, then surely the fact that the GF is played at certain club’s home ground is the ultimate advantage. Not to mention the MCG stadium deal that explicitly states 10 of the...