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Not here to gloat. Great game. Feel sorry for you all, never has there been a worse holding the ball missed call than against Draper there. On SM-G986B using BigFooty.com mobile app

Lol No one is pipping Jones. He's either fit, and playing. Or he's not fit.

He can kick 50 comfortably. I wouldn't worry.

Yeh, not really in the same ball park as 2 ACLs. Doubt he'll be ready for seniors straight up. But he has had a lot of time, so certainly possible.

I'm not confident on Francis as a forward either. Very bullish on Kaine. But c'mon... his trajectory of development is closing fast on Francis!?!? He's barely pulled the boots on yet. Or are we still talking about how they look with their tops off?

Yeh, but did Doc Reid even check with Bruno first before shooting his mouth off?

I've no doubt Matt holds the style opinions of those on BigFooty with the highest of regard, and will immediately take heed of these suggestions.

Well I think the problem is not the rules, so much as how well they are applied! Lol

Nah they changed the interpretation on this a few back. It shouldn't be paid as a high tackle, if correctly applied.

Not necessarily, but who knows how severe the calf is anyway... Don't think they will be rushing him at this point in the pre-season either way.

Before the cardiac wards fill up with Essendon supporters... I do believe this 1 month old news

All fair. Especially the bit where you chose to assess Essendon first.

Usually MWF

Blue collar for me: is a team first ethos, the non-negotiables... Committing to blocks, tackles, smothers, team defence, giving off to a team mate in a better position, two way running, to always go when its your turn, etc. Think a lot of people are confusing blue collar, with being run of the...

But can you imagine the uproar if Essendon were to do shady things to snag a bloke whom no one wants?

Well yeh, sure, there is scope for rorting it. But we're talking about blokes who have gone undrafted and passed by every club on multiple occasions. They aren't top 10 draft picks.

Well sure, if you list his 3 biggest deficiencies in isolation, it wouldn't scream much. I think you could comfortably do that for any player to play the game, bar Gary Ablett jnr and a few others. How does a bloke with one of the worst athletic profiles to play the game win a brownlow without...

Why do people put words in other people's mouths when they don't hear what they want? I didn't assume you said no talent whatsoever, and nowhere did I say anything to indicate such. I read what you wrote and disagree with it wholeheartedly. Jobe read the play better than anyone, he was as one...

Ah no, I'm sorry, Jobe had a ****ing shit tonne of talent. Yes he worked hard, but that is a very strange thing to say.

Based on last year, Waterman cannot play through the middle, and isn't mobile enough up forward. But, that was the basis of my "unless he has a huge pre-season" comment. He should be able to get there.

The big one for me was Dalgliesh. I thought we would delist Dyson literally every single year, except the year that we did lol. But I think he was too good for this thread.

Isn't that exactly what he was saying?

Unless Waterman has a huge pre-season, would have thought he was a fair way down the pecking order. They seem to prefer 3 talls up front, not sure I would, but Francis is probably there.

A lot to play out. Munkara could just easily be picked above both daveys by end of year, as he would be below 40.

Doesn't contradict anything I said. McKenna also started as a forward. Regardless, I said McKenna and Hind have done nothing of note. What part of this do you disagree with? Re Raz and Walla, and other small forwards, hence why I said they can play a rebounding role.

You said if you're quick agile and a good kick, you can do both. I'm saying, there's more to it. Walla and Fanta could. McKenna and Hind have not been able to. We'll see what comes of Lord.

We aren't re-signing Clarke, regardless of what happens to the others.

Except neither Hind nor McKenna have done anything of note as a forward. Any quality small forward will have the capacity to be a good rebounding defender. Assuming their disposal by foot is good enough, which normally it is to be a quality small forward. But it doesn't necessarily go the...