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he can't be a cheat because he wins awards? he's a good player and he's courageous therefore he doesn't cheat? the article in this morning's age quotes the player himself as saying that he exploits the rules governing the game and will do so until the rules are changed to stop him. cats...

selwood's defiance is the same as ballantyne's "i'm going to keep doing the wrong thing because i can". both of these players are actually publicly challenging the rules committee and the umpires to do something about them and they're happy talking about it openly because they believe that...

so are our wonderful tv commentators going to continue telling us in every geelong game that selwood doesn't play for free kicks, now that the player himself admits that he does?

yes, the afl is generally well run and is in a far stronger position than the sports it competes against. yes, demetriou absolutely damages the afl brand each time that he appears in the media and condescendingly tells 20 million people that they are wrong (when they're right) because he's...

sigh.. i was responding to our friend from geelong who was explaining that gaz didn't understand that he was obligated to the cats for life because they made him a great footy player. reminded me of similar sentiments from WCE supporters when judd left. it's like how the eagles made glen...

Geelong made Ablett the best player in Australia. He would have been shithouse at any other club. We found out a similar thing when Judd left WCE. He owed them because they made him the player he is. If he'd been drafted by some other club he would have been, like, not very good at playing football.

good on you mate, how many posts is that claiming that you lost because of the umps? i didn't think the umps had been a factor until i saw all this stuff here the next day (not saying that i thought that the umps were good when i was watching the game, just that i didn't think it was a game...

and mooney's got heaps of them:eek:

good on wallace for telling the truth. it's not exactly a massive revelation. if it further exposes demetriou's pathetic propaganda then it's a good thing.

i have a little problem with this stuff actually. melbourne didn't give him an opportunity, you picked him in the draft. if you hadn't, the next club in line would have given him his "opportunity". it's like all the weagles supporters when judd left carrying on about how the eagles had given him...

not only did i stick this in the wrong section but there's already a thread on the same subject in 4th estate saying pretty much the same thing. mods please delete this thread, i'll go and get some glasses.

i was a huge fan of Blight as a player and a coach. he was a brilliant and creative player and i think he's probably a little bit under-rated and deserves to mentioned as one of the greats. as a coach he was innovative, successful and did it his way. when he first started commentating i used to...

i've noticed that some posters here are good at providing stats and season averages. i think, from memory, that the first expansion teams (the brisbane bears and west coast) joined the comp in 1987. can someone post the season average crowds for 1986 for north, footscray, melbourne, collingwood...

the jungle drums have been pretty accurate regarding player's names that have been thrown around for GC & GWS. if he put you out your misery, then at least you could start thinking about your compensation picks and what that might bring..

he should have announced it early this week like callan ward did. if it turns out that he's staying at melbourne, then he should have announced that months ago. agree that the ongoing delay is reflecting poorly on him.

the afl response about lists getting smaller is the oldest negotiation trick in the book. "yeah, if i give you the pay rise you want i'm going to have to fire the bloke next to you". it's noise, ignore it. the guy who said that the players are effectively giving up income to subsidise the...

you've drafted well for the last 5 years but your team is still crappy and you got beaten by GC and Port? sounds like a myth...

yeah, you're a funny mob. i was partially referring to the tigers that have got on this thread and said that they didn't expect finals this year. it raises the question - why not? oh that's right - "rebuilding". i think you might be suffering from long term success deprivation shock syndrome...

tiger supporters seem to be perennially in "hope" mode these days. WC went from the bottom to top 4 in one year and with the current system there's usually 1 or 2 clubs that make huge year to year improvements and get in the 8 but it's like richmond fans have been trained not to expect this...

damn! you got me! i didn't say that richmond supporters were saying you'd make the 8. i did say that richmond supporters get on here in droves every year and tell us that you have the best group of young players. i clearly remember this happening last year and the year before and the year...

now ron - try not to get upset but there has been a lot of richmond fans on here every year for years telling the world that you've got this fantastic group of young players. this is why the rest of us look on with total bemusement. maybe you lot should be admired for your resilience but it is...

yeah, it would have created huge problems if you'd made the finals. wouldn't want that. here's a list of the other clubs whose supporters don't want them to make the finals because of all the problems it causes:

there are times that this would be a valid point. this isn't one of them. if fevola's afl career was well and truly over, then nobody would have a problem with voss potting fev. the "potential fevola comeback story" is one of the biggest at the moment and senior coaches know that making personal...

good work ron. it's about time someone published some hard data to separate the subjective opinions from the facts. what this shows is that richmond have the 2nd youngest team which means that they will have the 2nd bestest. it also show that that frawley feller wasn't much chop and that that...

they are the next superpower. they have the best list of young players. they will win 3 or 4 flags.

buckley. the success of the pies at the moment is a result of the work of many people and i believe we'll continue to be strong. i think buckley will most likely turn out to be a very good coach. hindsight is a wonderful thing and if they'd known how the following couple of years would pan out...

voss has absolutely done a job on the lions. i have been lauding him. i normally don't mind rohan connolly but..sheesh..

your post implies that demetriou is kind of powerless because the sanfl has an endless well of funds. i'm not so sure. remember the commission controls the game. it controls how income is re-distributed and any club that relies on handouts currently exists at the mercy of the commission. they...

is it an annual event for richmond to fire up at the end of the season, giving false hope? seems to be part of the torture.

doh. because the afl can't instantly bankrupt a club so that they can force them into liquidation, or doing/going where they're told. so they're allowing 2 seasons to bankrupt the clubs that they want to remove in time for the end of the next tv deal (which guarantees 9 games/week and expires in...