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They changed the rules specifically because Maynard got offIf Maynard got off for ending Brayshaws career, then 2mp should be fine. No history of violence, he went for a mark and made an unfortunate collision.
To avoid suspension Wright needed to either be badly injured or to tuck himself up so he was all elbows and knees and go straight at the footy, attempting to chest markIt is a tough one, I really don’t know what the answer is with these sort of collisions.
The same incident - two players on a collision course going for the ball - BUT with the ball on the ground… we seem to have largely solved. It started out with the AFL suspending anybody who collected anyone in the head - which I maintain is a flawed approach. The fault in that situation is on the player who leads with his head and and gets taken out. It shat me to tears for many years… Selwood was the main offender, the bloke simply cannoned into ground ball contests… leading with his head. It’d get taken out and the other guy would get suspended while we all had to listen to how incredibly brave Joel was. Well yes he was a tough player, he was also stupidly reckless and refused to protect himself.
That seems to have worked itself out. Two players on a collision course for a ground ball now turn their bodies and hit the contest side on. Which is the best outcome as nobody’s head is in danger.
This is similar, but with the ball in the air.
How should it be looked at? In the strictest and most traditional sense, it’s Cunningham’s fault that he got knocked out. Two players attacked a contest and only one of them chose not to protect himself.
But that was pretty much required for him to get the ball. And that’s what we laud in football - “putting yourself on the line” - Cunningham did that, sacrificing his own wellbeing to stop Wright getting the ball and maybe going on to score a goal.
Really, Cunningham’s only other option was to pull out of the contest, which we do not accept.
So even though it was Cunningham’s fault, it was done with the most laudable football intentions. For 100+ years, all fair, well done, ridiculously brave, bad luck, everybody gets on with it and Wright doesn’t face any problems because he was merely protecting himself in the contest.
That doesn’t wash any more.
What were Wright’s options? Hard to know if he had any given we’re talking milliseconds. Obviously first and foremost he’s going for the ball, at what point does he consciously realise he’s not getting it and instead brace for contact? There probably isn’t a conscious decision, it’s all so quick.
What else can he do? I guess he can attack the contest with venom but instead attempt to get low. Broken ribs, punctured lung for Cunningham, which appears to be the preferred option.
Or he can pull out entirely, which we won’t accept.
Really, the only true way to get rid of these collisions is to make it “black and white” illegal to make contact with any player who is in the air going for a mark. Players won’t do it and will actively pull out of contests. We obviously won’t accept that.
You'd have to do it off the ball I guess, would take a lot of campaigner in somebody to do that.Wonder if they will ever grade a bump intentional, even Webster's was graded careless
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No idea how he can even challenge a lengthy ban. Can’t argue it wasn’t high or severe. And there’s no lower classification than careless.
I don't think I've seen a player publicly call for another player to eat a suspension the way Papley did.
Compare that to Sicily (who is just as much of aflog) having McGrath come out in his defense.
They seemed worried.Papley is a little bitch, parker was happy to mock us as soft Infront of the football world then we come back and give them a bit he cries
Been thinking about this a little.It is a tough one, I really don’t know what the answer is with these sort of collisions.
The same incident - two players on a collision course going for the ball - BUT with the ball on the ground… we seem to have largely solved. It started out with the AFL suspending anybody who collected anyone in the head - which I maintain is a flawed approach. The fault in that situation is on the player who leads with his head and and gets taken out. It shat me to tears for many years… Selwood was the main offender, the bloke simply cannoned into ground ball contests… leading with his head. It’d get taken out and the other guy would get suspended while we all had to listen to how incredibly brave Joel was. Well yes he was a tough player, he was also stupidly reckless and refused to protect himself.
That seems to have worked itself out. Two players on a collision course for a ground ball now turn their bodies and hit the contest side on. Which is the best outcome as nobody’s head is in danger.
This is similar, but with the ball in the air.
How should it be looked at? In the strictest and most traditional sense, it’s Cunningham’s fault that he got knocked out. Two players attacked a contest and only one of them chose not to protect himself.
But that was pretty much required for him to get the ball. And that’s what we laud in football - “putting yourself on the line” - Cunningham did that, sacrificing his own wellbeing to stop Wright getting the ball and maybe going on to score a goal.
Really, Cunningham’s only other option was to pull out of the contest, which we do not accept.
So even though it was Cunningham’s fault, it was done with the most laudable football intentions. For 100+ years, all fair, well done, ridiculously brave, bad luck, everybody gets on with it and Wright doesn’t face any problems because he was merely protecting himself in the contest.
That doesn’t wash any more.
What were Wright’s options? Hard to know if he had any given we’re talking milliseconds. Obviously first and foremost he’s going for the ball, at what point does he consciously realise he’s not getting it and instead brace for contact? There probably isn’t a conscious decision, it’s all so quick.
What else can he do? I guess he can attack the contest with venom but instead attempt to get low. Broken ribs, punctured lung for Cunningham, which appears to be the preferred option.
Or he can pull out entirely, which we won’t accept.
Really, the only true way to get rid of these collisions is to make it “black and white” illegal to make contact with any player who is in the air going for a mark. Players won’t do it and will actively pull out of contests. We obviously won’t accept that.
Richmond did it last year, footy accident in a marking contest.No idea how he can even challenge a lengthy ban. Can’t argue it wasn’t high or severe. And there’s no lower classification than careless.
I'd challenge the definition of "conduct".No idea how he can even challenge a lengthy ban. Can’t argue it wasn’t high or severe. And there’s no lower classification than careless.
I think the rules have changed since the Maynard/Brayshaw smother attempt.Richmond did it last year, footy accident in a marking contest.
Yeh for those types of incidents, incidents can still be rules as football accidents. This was nothing like Maynard’s.I think the rules have changed since the Maynard/Brayshaw smother attempt.
FWIW, I don’t think Wright should be suspended. It’s a contact sport, accidents happen. Anyone that crosses the line signs up for the possibility they can get accidentally crunched.