List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

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Ok anyway I think we've established that for whatever reasons I just want him :D
 

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Come on you're better than that. Give me something. :D

I actually don't mind either of those players and I would be happy enough to see them in Navy Blue but I am not convinced that either are a great fit for Carlton at the moment.

Both are fringe players at Geelong and whilst they may be more than that at Carlton, even with that first pick included I don't see us giving two top 5 players for them.
 
So it would be another first rounder and then they probably become a moot point. This takes me to another question I had about your rebuild. Are you just after sexy picks or also good players like the aforementioned to make you a better side in the meantime?
 
I don't like it! But thanks for playing ball :)
 
Kersten, Horlin-Smith and round 1 pick for Hendo and Menzel? (Just an idea floated on our board) Probably not enough?

I think a r1 pick and a r2 pick for hendo and menzel might get it done tbh.

Hendo should be worth a early 1st pick, but based on hes performance over the past 2-3 years id say hes worth around a early 2nd round pick. I really don't rate hendo at all tbh. I'd actually be shocked to be sitting here if Geelong offer their first round pick for him.

Menzel looks good, but not worth a 1st round pick in my opinion. He has potential to be a star, and probably will become one. Based on hes performance id say hes worth an early 2nd round pick. He is still young and improving though, so I wouldn't give him away for a 2nd round pick, id rather take the risk and hope he becomes a very good player. Carlton will not give him up for a 2nd rounder though. They will want a 1st rounder or a 2nd round + something else.
 
Personally I'd look at Geelong's first rounder, another late first rounder if they can secure one for Motlop and Kersten. The Cats would love to get the Menzel boys together.

If they secure a higher first rounder for Motlop, cancel Kersten, although maybe we'd still look at him for a 3rd rounder.
 
Kersten, Horlin-Smith and round 1 pick for Hendo and Menzel? (Just an idea floated on our board) Probably not enough?
I like the idea, but just not sure the players we get back are suited for what we need at the moment.

If I were at the Carlton table during negotiations, I would say that was a nice offer, but we would want Kersten and Guthrie instead, plus we will send back a pick in the early 30s.
 
Menzel and Hendo for Geelong's first rounder and next year's first rounder.

I want it to happen just so I can watch it unfold.

Could massively improve Geelong's structure and provide a ready-made replacement for Stevie J, and see them super-competitive next year, thereby ruining the pick we get in 2016.

Could also be a poor fit or they could take a while to find their feet, Cats slip down a bit, the pick we get improves.

THE DRAMA!
 

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1st round pick, Kolodjashnij, Lang and either Jansen or Bates for Henderson and Menzel.

Would do Henderson and Menzel for Kolodjashnij and your first round pick (Pick 11).

Would push for exchange of picks as well, our Pick 38 for Geelongs Pick 29.

Thoughts...?
 
Would do Henderson and Menzel for Kolodjashnij and your first round pick (Pick 11).

Would push for exchange of picks as well, our Pick 38 for Geelongs Pick 29.

Thoughts...?

Just take their 2 firsts (after they get one for Motlop) and Horlin-Smith and run I say
 
Would do Henderson and Menzel for Kolodjashnij and your first round pick (Pick 11).

Would push for exchange of picks as well, our Pick 38 for Geelongs Pick 29.

Thoughts...?
Gold Coasts Kolodjashnij - yes, but id feel like we still took slightly unders.

Geelongs Kolodjashnij - notsomuch
 
I'd do Geelong's r1 pick, a swap of ou r r3 for their r2 and Guthrie, for Hendo and Menzel.
Would be fair to both parties.
Hendo is worth a r1 pick 8 to 10 and a bit more thence lower pick swaps and a quality midfielder for Menzel is fine.
 
I would take Kolodjashnij over a second recond pick in a weak draft, he is still 19 years old, hence perfect age profile for us and will be great alongside Weitering, Buckley, Tuohy, Byrne, Fields and one of Rowe/Jamison down back.
 
If Port are stupid enough to trade Lobbe out to fit in Dixon, I say we get on the blower to Kenny right now,offer our 2nd rounder and a sweetner like Walker for Lobbe.

Would be an horrendous list and cultural misstep by Port to sacrifice Lobbe for Dixon.

Lobbe just strikes me as a heart and Soul Port Player, would be a lot of pissed off Port players and fans if he was traded,but would love him in Navy Blue
 
If Port are stupid enough to trade Lobbe out to fit in Dixon, I say we get on the blower to Kenny right now,offer our 2nd rounder and a sweetner like Walker for Lobbe.

Would be an horrendous list and cultural misstep by Port to sacrifice Lobbe for Dixon.

Lobbe just strikes me as a heart and Soul Port Player, would be a lot of pissed off Port players and fans if he was traded,but would love him in Navy Blue
Who's gonna take Walker when he's injury plagued, not in great form, and not exactly young anymore?
 
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