Pickett is a twig, would you really want to give away first-rounder for him ??
Sicily was a third round selection, what is the fascination with him ??
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Pickett is a twig, would you really want to give away first-rounder for him ??
Sicily was a third round selection, what is the fascination with him ??
Surely Kreuz will stay, it doesn't make any sense for him to leave. Knocked back over $1mil a year to go to GWS, has on many, many occasions stated his love for the club, desire to be a one club player and intent on staying. I imagine Carlton have low balled him and what we saw in the press conference was instructions by his management to help drive his price a little higher.
From memory I read / heard that when SOS came on board he was shocked at what some of our players were earning, I guess he is correcting that now.
From memory I read / heard that when SOS came on board he was shocked at what some of our players were earning, I guess he is correcting that now.
I hope he stays.
Me too. Think Bolton will want to hang on to all the talent he can. Got nothing to lose by seeing out his contract and having a crack. More sensible than taking unders.
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I read somewhere that Kreuzer has been on around $500,000 for the last 3 years. I cant imagine we would offer him less money so not sure what he and his manager are after considering he has hardly played in 2 years.
There is no point bringing in lots of young players through the draft if there isnt a core group of good senior players around them.
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A new coach publicly stating that every player should know it is a clean sheet and no preconceptions - is a pretty good way to at least revisit any 50/50 situation.
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I reckon all the payers will be excited.
Pickett taken pick 4 last year and is 19y.o - explosive small forward/midfielder.
Fair call though - he does need to start eating.
If we were to get him using the Hawks pick we receive I would go for that.
http://m.gwsgiants.com.au/player-profile/jarrod-pickett
I dont know much about Sicily just heard a rumour that we were talking. Still fills a need for a quality HFF we need. Been behind in the lines of Hawthorns best 22 but could be a fantastic inclusion. 20y.o. and his box hill stats aren't too shabby.
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_...=194571504&client=1-118-10469-339767-20320228
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A new coach has gotta think long and hard about trading out a No 6 Pick regardless of what is coming in.
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My favourite line from the entire day's festivities:
"For Carlton supporters who are anxious, don't be anxious. Matthew is happy as a lark at Carlton and wants to stay. We want him to stay and we will get it fixed," Trigg said.
"For Carlton supporters who are anxious, don't be anxious. Matthew is happy as a lark at Carlton and wants to stay. We want him to stay and we will get it fixed," Trigg said.
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Some very good ideas. Agree with most. My 2 cents:
Hendo: Agree Geelong will give up first. Probably overs, but they seem not to f around.
Yarran: Their 1st pick is too high. 2nd pick woefully to low. Start off with their first and we need to balance it from there. Yarran and our 3rd (39) for their 1st and 3rd (14 + 51). That values Yarran at pick ~18 using the AFL tables. That's about right. Plus 51 would be ballpark to match Rice (incidentally equals pick 39 under f/s)
Bell: Given the situation, I think we ought to do the right thing and trade him. The problem is I think he is worth more to the team than his trade value would be. 'Ballpark' recent benchmark trades would be Greenwood for #25 and Bernie Vince for #23. I'd say Bell is not quite as valuable as either of those, but he will be a year younger than Greenwood was and a few younger than Vince was. 5rSo a pick in the late 20s. There's a bunch of ways to make this work by swapping picks etc but it will depend on if we are adding Aish into the equation.
Menzel: Agree, get the body and mind right with this one and we have something special on our hands. Can we loan him out to Port Adelaide to do work experience under Chad Wingard for a season?
Krooz: My fave player but my gut says SOS will choose pick 3
I know us fans froth at the mouth late in the season over the possibilities, but I really believe we will be super active this off-season. Stay tuned!
Looks like Trigg caught my warning fire outside his house earlier today then
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You and a flame-thrower done get persuasive.........
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Yes it'll be interesting.
Malty took a liking to the Rowes and Whites of the list. Less skilled... probably more athletic (Wattos chase down begs to differ)... but played a role.
I wonder how Bolton will go with this. Does he value kicking skills similar to the Hawks list?
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I wonder if Bolton has a relationship with Langford, in the GF last year he looked like he was on the verge of being A grade and this year has spent alot of it at Box Hill.
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Really wonder what SOS thinks of the two blokes we got from GWS last season. I haven't been impressed.
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Better still, what does he think of the two ex-doggies? He would have walked in this club, laughing his a*** off about our recruiting!
Thought both showed a bit for the first time on the weekend.
They are both far more undersized than I thought. Why is Whiley so light? He's been in the system 3 years and is supposed to be an inside mid.
The attractiveness of a band 1 compo for MK could have decreased markedly now that it looks increasingly likely that Bribane will get one for Leuenberger. The player we had in mid for pick 2 is unlikely to be there at 4.
Still think we would be a chance to get one of the two kps at 3 as lions may want a mid with 2.
Still think we would be a chance to get one of the two kps at 3 as lions may want a mid with 2.
Better not break down again. Heart and soul mean less when you miss half a career. Still, I love him. Tough decision. If he takes less money, 100% keep him. If he is after a pay bump, only a ballsy ceo would sign off on another big contract for someone made of glass.
I agree...for all the frothing, some intelligent thought processes must reach the final decison. Not so much 'thinking' with the heart.
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I like Whiley. His contested work on the weekend was alright. Has problems with his game, but I'm sure he will fix them.
Ironically while Carlton was aiming for Jaksch, Whiley fits in and looks to be ahead of him in a number of areas at the moment.
There is still time to determine whether the trade was a success.
Ironically while Carlton was aiming for Jaksch, Whiley fits in and looks to be ahead of him in a number of areas at the moment.
There is still time to determine whether the trade was a success.
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