Training 2017/2018 Pre-season Thread

Who will be our most improved for 2018?


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Bit peeved that after all the hype coming out of the club, Poholke didn't get a jumper in AFLX.
I wouldn't be. It's probably fair to say that the 18 players named are the 18 bottom ranked players on our list (including rookies), excluding injuries (of course).

This means that Poholke is now inside the top-27 players at the club.
 
Looking at that AFLX squad, I think not being named is probably a good thing. It is possibly the worst squad that we could name!
The most interesting facet is the naming of Kelly, Otten, Doedee, Keath & Cheney, all of whom are effectively fighting for two positions in the senior team (Kelly's & Lever's).

It also confirms that Hampton is nowhere near AFL selection in 2018.
 
Bit peeved that after all the hype coming out of the club, Poholke didn't get a jumper in AFLX.

I’d be more inclined to say its more a slap in the face towards Jordan Gullicci as he is being grouped with the lower ranked players.

Poholke would be a walk up start form the JLT series.
 
The most interesting facet is the naming of Kelly, Otten, Doedee, Keath & Cheney, all of whom are effectively fighting for two positions in the senior team (Kelly's & Lever's).

It also confirms that Hampton is nowhere near AFL selection in 2018.
Do you think that the AFLX is actually being used as an audition or do you think that them all being named is more because all 5 are in the bottom half of our list?

I wouldn't go as far as saying that being named in the AFLX side confirms anything about Hampton. You could ask the same question of Hampton's selection as he and Gallucci are potentially fighting it our for CC's position in the team.
 

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I’d be more inclined to say its more a slap in the face towards Jordan Gullicci as he is being grouped with the lower ranked players.

Poholke would be a walk up start form the JLT series.
I wouldn't read too much into that. It's an 18 man squad. We only have 45 players on the list, with Walker & Smith both unavailable, plus Fogarty & McPherson who "have had good pre-seasons, but at this point it’s probably not best for their preparation into the main season to play AFLX", bringing the pool down to 41.

What this means is that Gallucci is not in the top 23 (available) players. I can live with that.

On the other hand, it does mean that Poholke & Milera are now both rated ahead of Gallucci & Hampton.
 
I wouldn't read too much into that. It's an 18 man squad. We only have 45 players on the list, with Walker & Smith both unavailable, plus Fogarty & McPherson who "have had good pre-seasons, but at this point it’s probably not best for their preparation into the main season to play AFLX", bringing the pool down to 41.

What this means is that Gallucci is not in the top 23 (available) players. I can live with that.

On the other hand, it does mean that Poholke & Milera are now both rated ahead of Gallucci & Hampton.
How in the hell did you derive these conclusions from a selected ALFX side ? ......so what conclusion do you draw from Port selecting Robbie Gray ?
 
Do you think that the AFLX is actually being used as an audition or do you think that them all being named is more because all 5 are in the bottom half of our list?

I wouldn't go as far as saying that being named in the AFLX side confirms anything about Hampton. You could ask the same question of Hampton's selection as he and Gallucci are potentially fighting it our for CC's position in the team.
It's being used as a developmental & Fitness program
 
Bit peeved that after all the hype coming out of the club, Poholke didn't get a jumper in AFLX.
Why ? ......was it all that important that he be named ? ......i couldn't care less
 
Do you think that the AFLX is actually being used as an audition or do you think that them all being named is more because all 5 are in the bottom half of our list?

I wouldn't go as far as saying that being named in the AFLX side confirms anything about Hampton. You could ask the same question of Hampton's selection as he and Gallucci are potentially fighting it our for CC's position in the team.
There's a bit of both. The naming of so many defenders indicates that there's a competition for those positions. For the rest, it pretty much says that they're closer to the bottom of the pile than the top.

We've only named 3 players with 50+ AFL games - Otten (98), Cheney (77), and Hampton (60). We already know that Cheney is on a dead man walking contract. I'm betting that at least 2 of those 3 players will be gone at the end of the year. If you've played 50+ AFL games, and you've been named in an AFLX team, you know that your career is in deep, deep, trouble.
 
How in the hell did you derive these conclusions from a selected ALFX side ? ......so what conclusion do you draw from Port selecting Robbie Gray ?
Because the team selected is clearly the bottom "available" 18 players on our list. Poholke & Milera not named, so they're obviously not in that bottom tier.

I couldn't give a fig about Port's selection policies. I couldn't care less what the wharfie scum are doing.
 
Because the team selected is clearly the bottom "available" 18 players on our list. Poholke & Milera not named, so they're obviously not in that bottom tier.

I couldn't give a fig about Port's selection policies. I couldn't care less what the wharfie scum are doing.
Just rubbish Vader .....that's your interpretation

You couldn't give a fig about Ports selection policies, because it doesn't compute with how you believe clubs select their AFLX sides ......that is the bottom tier of the list

Sensibly the club will use to increase fitness of new recruits & as Kessler said assist the players in development of the Crows structure ......it has nothing to do with equating a ranking of Crows players
 
There's a bit of both. The naming of so many defenders indicates that there's a competition for those positions. For the rest, it pretty much says that they're closer to the bottom of the pile than the top.

We've only named 3 players with 50+ AFL games - Otten (98), Cheney (77), and Hampton (60). We already know that Cheney is on a dead man walking contract. I'm betting that at least 2 of those 3 players will be gone at the end of the year. If you've played 50+ AFL games, and you've been named in an AFLX team, you know that your career is in deep, deep, trouble.
I agree that it doesn't look good for them, but in saying that one of the players selected is our 23rd best player. That player might be Hampton or it not be. Either way, I don't think that the AFLX squad confirms that anyone is "nowhere near AFL selection in 2018".
 
Just rubbish Vader .....that's your interpretation

You couldn't give a fig about Ports selection policies, because it doesn't compute with how you believe clubs select their AFLX sides ......that is the bottom tier of the list

Sensibly the club will use to increase fitness of new recruits & as Kessler said assist the players in development of the Crows structure ......it has nothing to do with equating a ranking of Crows players
Surely you can see that this squad is close to the weakest squad (for a proper game) that we could name.
 
I wouldn't read too much into that. It's an 18 man squad. We only have 45 players on the list, with Walker & Smith both unavailable, plus Fogarty & McPherson who "have had good pre-seasons, but at this point it’s probably not best for their preparation into the main season to play AFLX", bringing the pool down to 41.

What this means is that Gallucci is not in the top 23 (available) players. I can live with that.

On the other hand, it does mean that Poholke & Milera are now both rated ahead of Gallucci & Hampton.

Classic Vader assumptions....

Bookmarked for future reference.
 
Surely you can see that this squad is close to the weakest squad (for a proper game) that we could name.
It's a long season for the older / mature players .....they never play all the JLT series anyway

This is an 18 man squad .....IIRC only 10 are in the final squad ....7 on the pitch & 3 reserves (stand to be corrected)

Adelaide (18-man squad)
7. Jordan Gallucci, 8. Jake Kelly, 17. Curtly Hampton, 19. Jackson Edwards, 22. Andy Otten, 25. Kyle Cheney, 28. Cam Ellis-Yolmen, 31. Patrick Wilson, 34. Elliott Himmelberg, 35. Matthew Signorello, 37. Paul Hunter, 38. Harry Dear, 39. Tom Doedee, 40. Ben Davis, 42. Alex Keath, 43. Reilly O’Brien, 44. Lachie Murphy, 45. Ben Jarman

So the squad named v the final squad, tells us absolutely nothing, zero ....diddly squat
 

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