List Mgmt. 2018 Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[Cannon82]

I prefer to use the term 'poor decision making' rather than a 'poor kick', it's all in the sales pitch

Indeed, he often makes the poor decision to kick it.

 

[Topkent]

Snide? Yesterday you said Hannans goal return was down because he has to cover Hogan at ground level, and now you say Menzel shouldn’t be lost to AFL because he doesn’t run chase or tackle.

I’d take a punt on Menzel too, particularly if we lose Jesse, but it’s clear at this stage that you have a fairly clear bias

So at the end of the day you agree with me but you thought **** it I'll try detail it anyway?

Hogan worth 2x Firsts
Poor one on one
Doesn't pressure or tackle
Paid ~800k

Menzel
Delisted FA
Excellent one on one
Doesn't pressure or tackle
Bad injury history
Paid ~100k

As a backup option there is literally no one better in the AFL potentially available

Comrades,

Is pick 5 or 6 for May overs?

Can't help but feel that Melbourne is playing too nice again this trade period.

It's probably on the money.

 

[Topkent]

So everyone's ok with him leaving? No vitriol? No Scully bags or anything?

We paid 3 an 13 for him ( got 20 back an spent it on Dawes)

I understand his reasons but I certainly won't be cheering him on to win Colemans in Perth

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

So at the end of the day you agree with me but you thought **** it I'll try detail it anyway?

Hogan worth 2x Firsts
Poor one on one
Doesn't pressure or tackle
Paid ~800k

Menzel
Delisted FA
Excellent one on one
Doesn't pressure or tackle
Bad injury history
Paid ~100k

As a backup option there is literally no one better in the AFL potentially available



It's probably on the money.

to think if Menzel had kicked another 20 goals against bottom sides he’d have kicked as many goals for the season as Hogan

 

[blktreacle]

Why is the combine held on floorboards? Its at docklands why cant they run the tests on the grass?

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[Jamurp]

He's statistically better than most of the good kpfs in the game when they were his age, it sucks that we're losing him, can't see how we can make it up, but I hope we can.

 

[BG32]

Why is the combine held on floorboards? Its at docklands why cant they run the tests on the grass?

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Was thinking that today, only thing I could come up with is all the records and data from past years was done on floorboards so they stick with it for consistency

 

[blktreacle]

Was thinking that today, only thing I could come up with is all the records and data from past years was done on floorboards so they stick with it for consistency

I mean it makes sense that its for consistency but we dont play on a basketball court (yet)
And you run differently on different surfaces.
Particularly the agility test- you can get more grip on grass and turn the corner tighter just from the way you can put your foot down.

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[Topkent]

to think if Menzel had kicked another 20 goals against bottom sides he’d have kicked as many goals for the season as Hogan

You should do some research before you try an be a smartass.

Last 32 games Menzel 67 goals.
Last 32 games Hogan 69 goals.

 

[TheLastCall]

I mean it makes sense that its for consistency but we dont play on a basketball court (yet)
And you run differently on different surfaces.
Particularly the agility test- you can get more grip on grass and turn the corner tighter just from the way you can put your foot down.

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Grass rips up it 70 people run the same course, hard surface will stay the same.

 

[Topkent]

Grass rips up it 70 people run the same course, hard surface will stay the same.

Plus it doesn't rain inside basketball courts

 

[lose]

Surely it’s about time for some riddles?



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[Topkent]

Just checked out the FA pool this year. It's ****ing shit.
The best options who aren't heavily linked to clubs are Schoenmakers, Menzel, Duryea, Libba.

I can't see any of them being best 22 next year for us outside Libba who I doubt leaves.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

You should do some research before you try an be a smartass.

Last 32 games Menzel 67 goals.
Last 32 games Hogan 69 goals.

Just a joke mate, take it easy lol

 

[Topkent]

Just a joke mate, take it easy lol

Nope I'm in a shite mood this morning, it's already snowing here which is about a month early. Cost me around 5k

Global warming an all that jazz.

 

[Topkent]

Just a joke mate, take it easy lol

 

[Carnthedockers]

found it sad, them interviewing Hogan at the airport and he said "I'm just in town visiting family, there was 4 of them when I left, now there's 3"

ive probably underestimated what he's been through at times, if he feels being back in Perth is the best thing for him, I truly hope he has a ripping career with the dockers.

Pretty sure he was referring to how many journos at the Melbourne then Perth airports..

 

[Topkent]

Pretty sure he was referring to how many journos at the Melbourne then Perth airports..

If he ment since he moved to Melbourne then it's about his family yep.

If he ment since he was last in Perth it doesn't make sense, he was either in Perth when his father passed or flew back after it happened already.

 

[Carnthedockers]

If he ment since he moved to Melbourne then it's about his family yep.

If he ment since he was last in Perth it doesn't make sense, he was either in Perth when his father passed or flew back after it happened already.

As in there was 4 journos at Melbourne airport, then he got off in Perth and there was 3

 

[Topkent]

As in there was 4 journos at Melbourne airport, then he got off in Perth and there was 3

I haven't actually seen the video so I don't know the context

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Nope I'm in a shite mood this morning, it's already snowing here which is about a month early. Cost me around 5k

Global warming an all that jazz.

I don't know if I could cop the prairies in winter. Just a few hours of neg 40 in Banff was enough for a lifetime.

 

[Ando727]

So everyone's ok with him leaving? No vitriol? No Scully bags or anything?

We paid 3 an 13 for him ( got 20 back an spent it on Dawes)

I understand his reasons but I certainly won't be cheering him on to win Colemans in Perth

I'm only slightly peeved because I never thought he truly bought in to us, so I'm not surprised he's leaving. But he owes us a good deal, and I hope he's not going to let us get shafted with the compensation. If that happens I'll be getting the pitchforks ready. We literally could not have supported him more through his trials and tribulations.

 

[Ando727]

Nope I'm in a shite mood this morning, it's already snowing here which is about a month early. Cost me around 5k

Global warming an all that jazz.

Snow costs you money?

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

I'm only slightly peeved because I never thought he truly bought in to us, so I'm not surprised he's leaving. But he owes us a good deal, and I hope he's not going to let us get shafted with the compensation. If that happens I'll be getting the pitchforks ready. We literally could not have supported him more through his trials and tribulations.

I think it's a little unfair to say he never bought into us, when it's been 100% media driven. He's done literally nothing himself (except the Freo scarf thing in 2013, when he wasn't really on our list) to ever suggest he's not an MFC man through and through.

 

[Topkent]

Snow costs you money?

I'm a landscaper, so I had 4 more patio jobs booked for between 3 and 5k each, half of that goes to materials roughly then split profits with the business partner.
When there's snow on the ground business shuts for best part of 6 months and turns into snow removal which is **** all money and not often enough