List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Watch

[JasRulz63]

Current no. of players on the list
Senior list - 34 (2-4 free*)
Rookie (Cat A) - 4 (0-2 free*)
Rookie (Cat B) - 2 (0 free)
Maximum list size of 44. Up to 36-38 senior list, 4-6 category A rookie list and 2 category B rookie list.
* Total of four list spots available, with a minimum of 2 senior list spots needing to be utilised.

List changes
IN: Daniher, Cockatoo, Uosis (R)
OUT: Christensen, Wooller, Allison (R), Skinner (R), Eagles (R), C. Lyons (R), Martin, Witherden, Cox, Hinge.
PROMOTED: Fullarton.
ROOKIED: Birchall, Mathieson, Ballendan.

Current picks
25, 53, 58, 69, 70
(2021 - 1st (MEL), 1st, 3rd (WCE), 3rd, 4th (MEL), 4th (COLL), 5th)

Spoiler: 2020 draft order

Useful links
2020 trade news compendium
List changes, contract status and key dates
2020 draft discussion thread

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Hasn't Dodoro already indicated they will be wanting a top 10 pick + a player for their running halfback in the calibre of Saad?

Tell him he's dreamin'.

 

[Football Pope]

Tell him he's dreamin'.

Yep...But this is Dodoro..

According to a report in The Age, Essendon’s initial asking price for the 26-year-old, who requested a trade to the Blues last week, involved one of star trio Charlie Curnow

30

Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

, Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

26

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

or Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

.

Once that was dismissed, the Bombers then asked for Carlton’s first pick along with promising youngster Tom De Koning

12

Tom De Koning

Age

25

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

AFL Trade Whispers: Bombers’ bold Blues request, SIX clubs still in the hunt for Brad Crouch

Trade Whispers: Bombers’ bizarre Blues request revealed, SIX-club feeding frenzy for Crows star

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Scubaveg]

It actually could work, we up offer for Daniher slightly guarantees band 1. Dons pick 8 comes to us for 17&18. Saad and 18 to Blues for Blues pick 7. Pick 17 to GwS for Caldwell. Bombers keep their first round pick add another and bring in Caldwell. Not that crazy.


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[Gadzorks]

Anyone think Geelong are cheating the cap? Cameron's offer is supposedly 1 million per year. How can they possibly fit him into their current squad?

I’m positive they are. noway the can legit have their list plus trade ins.

 

[briztoon]

I dont see why anyone would trade us an first round pick for two late firsts.

Scenario A: there are 8 really good top level kids and then the rest are a tier below. Why would anyone trade out their top 8 pick?
Secnario B: there are 3 really topline kids and then 4-20 are all a tier below. Why would we want to trade two picks for one in that scenario?

I think the most likely scenario is we figure out whether to trade future second vs third vs fourth for Cockatoo. We take the two picks + upgrade Fullerton in the draft. We hope Coleman slips to the rookie list.

On draft night there would be a lot more variability in teams ranking players in that mid first to early second round given we haven't had the time to see late bloomers bolt up the draft as we usually do. I think if the club sees someone they rate in the top 10 still on the board around our pick we will look to upgrade. Otherwise two bites of the late cherry.

Scenario xyz;
Taking out all the nga tied kids, I’d say there’s 10 to 15 kids in the 5 to 20 range that might be similar on talent.

Two teams in that range might face a bid on an academy, and probably want to trade back for extra picks and points.

 

[JasRulz63]

According to SEN, GWS have informed Geelong they'll be matching the FA bid. I'm glad the Daniher move was done smoothly.

On the plus side, it means our first round picks won't get moved back. Just the Crouch one to come I guess.

 

[countryVicLion]

I’m positive they are. noway the can legit have their list plus trade ins.

All the toys are now thrown Out of the bath water, with Giants matching Cats offer, this now changes Cats draft hand dramatically


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[Gadzorks]

Firmly in rumour file but heard that Treloar is willing to take a pretty decent pay cut to come to us, he is pretty keen, and it's still a possibility tho Suns more likely.

So maybe this is what happens at Geelong?

I read the about them being great money managers but all clubs have sponsors helping club players families. Jarrod berry

7

Jarrod Berry

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

8.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.1

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

10.6

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

6.2

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

’s brother got a job with one of our sponsors (roar deal podcast from his own mouth). Might not be inflated salary, but enabled him to move here with a job waiting for him.

 

[bungalow_bill]

According to SEN, GWS have informed Geelong they'll be matching the FA bid. I'm glad the Daniher move was done smoothly.

On the plus side, it means our first round picks won't get moved back. Just the Crouch one to come I guess.

Must have been an ordinary offer not to trigger band 1. Cats about to lose some choice draft picks

 

[Dalions]

Must have been an ordinary offer not to trigger band 1. Cats about to lose some choice draft picks

It may have triggered Band 1.
But GWS want a player/s not just 1 pick.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

It may have triggered Band 1.
But GWS want a player/s not just a 1 pick.

Trouble for them is no genuinely decent players seem to want to go there. It's all one way traffic.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Most probable scenario is the Cats SC is tight they offered what they could but not enough for band 1.

 

[Football Pope]

It may have triggered Band 1.
But GWS want a player/s not just a 1 pick.

Yep, Was listening to Silvagni, Friday on Trade radio, he was urging GWS to match the offer

I’m pretty sure whatever way, they’d be able to fit him in their total player payments and get a better deal out of it. as compensation would only give them pick 12..

The Giants are reportedly eyeing two first round draft picks as well as a Cats player in exchange for Cameron.

The Cats currently hold three first round picks (11, 13 and 18) thanks to West Coast’s deal for Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

last year.

GWS to match whopping Cameron deal

It means the Giants are the first club in AFL history to officially match a rival’s bid on a restricted free agent.

thewest.com.au

 

[Scubaveg]

I’m positive they are. noway the can legit have their list plus trade ins.

Ablett’s gone, Taylor’s gone they’re taking about Menegola out as well. Hawkins on recently resigned and that would have been much less money given stage of his career.


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[Scubaveg]

According to SEN, GWS have informed Geelong they'll be matching the FA bid. I'm glad the Daniher move was done smoothly.

On the plus side, it means our first round picks won't get moved back. Just the Crouch one to come I guess.

Crouch won’t be band 1. Crows will have to match and trade.

Unless there’s dodgey stuff going on there. E.g. Crows up offer to confirm band 1, then they agree a side trade Duncan to the Crows for fourth rounder effectively a salary dump.


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[M Malice]

Crouch won’t be band 1. Crows will have to match and trade.

Unless there’s dodgey stuff going on there. E.g. Crows up offer to confirm band 1, then they agree a side trade Duncan to the Crows for fourth rounder effectively a salary dump.


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Can't see the Blues offering enough to jag the Bombers a band 1 for Saad either.

 

[Scubaveg]

Can't see the Blues offering enough to jag the Bombers a band 1 for Saad either.

Saad’s not a free agent Jason...


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[M Malice]

Saad’s not a free agent Jason...


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DOH!

 

[Mighty Lions]

According to SEN, GWS have informed Geelong they'll be matching the FA bid. I'm glad the Daniher move was done smoothly.

On the plus side, it means our first round picks won't get moved back. Just the Crouch one to come I guess.

The only reason the Daniher deal went smoothly was because we gave Essendon/Dodo what he wanted.

Cameron leaving GWS & going to Geelong is a very different challenge in many ways & I dont blame GWS for wanting to either keep Cameron or get a fair price from Geelong should they find a way through.

 

[jjami15]

The only reason the Daniher deal went smoothly was because we gave Essendon/Dodo what he wanted.

Cameron leaving GWS & going to Geelong is a very different challenge in many ways & I dont blame GWS for wanting to either keep Cameron or get a fair price from Geelong should they find a way through.

Did we? Show me a 3 year contract that netted a first round compensation.

 

[briztoon]

Must have been an ordinary offer not to trigger band 1. Cats about to lose some choice draft picks

It triggered band 1. But GWS could realistically get Geelong’s first two picks, 13 and 15, when the compo pick would have been pick 11.

 

[mpal6]

It triggered band 1. But GWS could realistically get Geelong’s first two picks, 13 and 15, when the compo pick would have been pick 11.

Yep, it's 14, 16, 20 for Geelong. If Crouch deal gets pick 2 for Adelaide it'll become 15, 17, 21.

I'm quite annoyed about our picks as well. Moved to 18,19 and sliding away slowly. Sigh.

 

[briztoon]

Yep, it's 14, 16, 20 for Geelong. If Crouch deal gets pick 2 for Adelaide it'll become 15, 17, 21.

I'm quite annoyed about our picks as well. Moved to 18,19 and sliding away slowly. Sigh.

Honestly, this is the one year I don’t mind.

If it was me, and the mids and flankers I like are gone by our first pick, then I’d just reach for one of the rucks.

 

[Fagenslions36]

Why would you worry about kids now that aren’t gonna get a game for 4 or 5 years we are stacked with kids . Coleman , and Coleman junior , smiths, Robertson , witherdon and answorth etc . I really am excited about yelling cockatoo next year aswell . We have waited years to be in this position we are getting stronger each year enjoy the ride . We were good enough to beat tigers this year when it mattered another year of player development and improvement and we are once again right at the pointy end .

 

[BangyBangy]

Yep, it's 14, 16, 20 for Geelong. If Crouch deal gets pick 2 for Adelaide it'll become 15, 17, 21.

I'm quite annoyed about our picks as well. Moved to 18,19 and sliding away slowly. Sigh.

Remember that time we got Daniher to the club without using any of our draft picks?