Player Watch 2022 AFL National Draft Discussion - read the pinned post

[Strapping Young Lad]

National AFL draft Monday November 28(first round only).
All other selections to be held on Tuesday November 29.
The pre-season and rookie drafts will then take place at 3pm (AEST) on Wednesday November 30.

 

[JZedd]

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Won't be surprised if we select Ginbey. Not a lot of fans on this board but very very high ceiling.

Contested ball winners that are 189cm and have elite sprinting, elite endurance and elite verticals -

Shame his kicking is Josh Goater levels

We got cooper who could provide us with what ginbey could. Need something different, top end inside mid.

We also have Ned Long. I'm guessing, however, he won't be on our list unless he steps up in 2023. Hope he surprises !!!

 

[Bardo State]

Hearing GC are very keen on Humphrey.

Feels like the first 6 picks are being telegraphed. Certain clubs are so worried about player retention that they are starting their campaigns before the draft.

 

[Jazzfan]

After last year's drafting, I'm absolutely comfortable in whoever the club selects at pick 6 (7).

Mackenzie and Clarke seem the safe picks. But I'd prefer Humphrey or Phillipou given that we need to find our own version of a Dusty, Fyfe, Danger, Trac or JDG that can challenge sides playing forward also.

Newcombe and Ward are going to be pretty much exclusively playing midfield. Hopefully Worpel shows his very best again this year as a mid (he's cactus elsewhere). I'm also hopeful Finn is following a Touk Miller

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Touk Miller

Age

28

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.7

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

12.3

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.8

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.0

5star

path from tagger to two way mid. CMAC seriously has some Simon Black attributes to roll through there.

I really want us to find that "striker" type mid. Phillipou and Humphrey seem our best chance in this draft. I love Humphrey personally. Kicking needs work, but he has a bit of Danger power and seems super dangerous overhead in the forward 50. A match winner ability.

Although we will highly likely be bottom six or worse in 2023, we cannot expect that we will land Reid.

 

[burner1]

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We also have Ned Long. I'm guessing, however, he won't be on our list unless he steps up in 2023. Hope he surprises !!!

Pretty sure ginbey is a level above in talent of stephens and especially Ned long. Outside Wardlaw is there a better potential contested beast than ginbey? It’s risky but in a lot of ways if it works is going to push us along a lot more than a McKenzie type Ie fix our contested ball issue and free up Jai, Ward, McDonald etc to be damaging receivers.

 

[Bugs1977]

Unless someone slides I think Mackenzie is our pick at 6. It's either got to be him or Phillipou if you aiming for a little upside.

 

[Bugs1977]

So easy to go back and forth between he and the Pou. McJenzie looked super sharp in the biggest game of the Chapiomships, his decision making and breakaway burst of speed are obvious. I’m not unhappy with either of them. The better players will be gone, but they’ve both got standout abilities and are the exact type we need (tall, quick, midfielders). McKenzie more advanced and cleaner looking kicking technique at this stage. Pou a smoother mover.

Mackenzie definitely seems like the type footballer Sammy Mitchell would like to work with. Seems to see the game play out as he can get it moving by hand pretty well out of the coal face. It's definitely something we need.

 

[burner1]

If Keeler and George both still available at our 2nd that would be an interesting choice. Shame we didn’t get 25 for Mitchell as getting both could really set up our forward line for the long-term.

 

[Pinoy Hawk]

Where is our pick 41 or thereabouts?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Hearing GC are very keen on Humphrey.

Hollands to the midfield and Humphrey takes up a similar role to Rankine and Hollands in the forward line. Two explosive mid/forwards that can rotate together.

 

[smish]

Resembles a right footed Zac Merret.

That's what everyone said about Josh Ward

 

[HeHateMe]

Where is our pick 41 or thereabouts?

Looks like we have gifted it to Geelong.

 

[Franko Armani]

Need a gun forward - hope we can uncover one in this draft.

 

[Franko Armani]

Ed Allan would’ve been a nice pickup if Ben had played 2 more games for us.

 

[number23]

Where is our pick 41 or thereabouts?

Does Knightmare barrack for the scum? That "missing" pick 41 is the one, when father-sons are taken into account, that we take Anthony Munkara with.

 

[Brant]

If Keeler and George both still available at our 2nd that would be an interesting choice. Shame we didn’t get 25 for Mitchell as getting both could really set up our forward line for the long-term.

Need 22 from the scum - then we might be in with a chance.

 

[Fluro Boots]

Pick Clarke then do a live trade for Geelongs pick 7

 

[burner1]

Need 22 from the scum - then we might be in with a chance.

Yep - but not sure we have enough currency to get it done.

Would love to pinch munkarra from dons as well.

Keeler, George, munkarra would be some talent injection to the forward half (but with a fair amount of risk).

 

[daniel23]

If we keep our pick I'm pretty confident tsatas might get to us which would be exciting. If essendon take Humphrey (dodo loves those types) absolutely zero chance goldcoast take tsatas.

 

[toomanysquibs]

I'm none the wiser after that.

Good advertisement for his burst speed, and ability to draw players to him before dishing off a handball. Not the best highlight reel of his kicking/disposal.

Mackenzie definitely seems like the type footballer Sammy Mitchell would like to work with. Seems to see the game play out as he can get it moving by hand pretty well out of the coal face. It's definitely something we need.

A couple of those really attacking forward handballs were eye catching.

But I think he's just got that burst of speed and agility/step to escape a contest which would add another dimension to our midfield. (As a clearance mid McDonald might show that he can also use his pace to do the same when he returns to his U18 position in the midfield). Phillipou will likely get quicker too from where he's at now as a borderline bottom ager. He's still growing into that frame of his.

Granted his ego seems plenty fleshed out already!

Won't go backwards with either player though.

 

[Chioli]

Phillipou/McKenzie this year, Reid Next Year

Sheezel comes home and plays rd 1 2025

Hoping Bombers take Humphrey or Mckenzie and either the suns forget the draft is on and don't turn up or realise Tsatas will be leaving as soon as he can if they draft him and he lands at the Hawks

 

[TDS7]

Hoping Bombers take Humphrey or Mckenzie and either the suns forget the draft is on and don't turn up or realise Tsatas will be leaving as soon as he can if they draft him and he lands at the Hawks

With player retention on everyone's minds, this could eventuate. But remember, some of Gold Coast's best players are currently:

Touk Miller - VICM Calder Cannons
Noah Anderson - VICM Oakleigh
Matt Rowell - VICM Oakleigh
Ben King - VICM Sandringham
Brandon Ellis - VICM Calder Cannons


They don't get better by compromising on talent, especially not Metro talent.

 

[Alsmypal]

Can’t see Dodo passing on Tsatsas when he’s clinging on to his job.
If that video is one of McKenzies highlight reels it was rather bland tbh.

 

[ML4Hodgy]

With player retention on everyone's minds, this could eventuate. But remember, some of Gold Coast's best players are currently:

Touk Miller - VICM Calder Cannons
Noah Anderson - VICM Oakleigh
Matt Rowell - VICM Oakleigh
Ben King - VICM Sandringham
Brandon Ellis - VICM Calder Cannons


They don't get better by compromising on talent, especially not Metro talent.

As GWS, GC and Bris have found, there are 2 big triggers that increase the go home factor. Being crap/losing lots of games, and draftees being forced into peripheral roles waiting for main opportunities.
GC have passed the first issue, but are getting to the second issue. They let 4 players have the majority of CBAs last year (Rowell, Anderson, Swallow and Miller). Flanders and Hollands are there waiting for their opportunity.
It’s just whether GC think Tsatsas would wait, or not. Fingers crossed he would.

 

[TDS7]

As GWS, GC and Bris have found, there are 2 big triggers that increase the go home factor. Being crap/losing lots of games, and draftees being forced into peripheral roles waiting for main opportunities.
GC have passed the first issue, but are getting to the second issue. They let 4 players have the majority of CBAs last year (Rowell, Anderson, Swallow and Miller). Flanders and Hollands are there waiting for their opportunity.
It’s just whether GC think Tsatsas would wait, or not. Fingers crossed he would.

Tsatas would be more than serviceable as a wing or seagull halfback at AFL level, but yes you are correct. Swallow shouldn't be getting many CBAs next year, could see him forcing his way in if he's up to it. But just because Tsatas falls through Essendon doesn't mean Gold Coast is gonna turn around and let him through to us.

 

[Dewnior]

Didn’t realise Vickery was a R2/3 chance

He isn't. It's the media trying to pump up his tyres.