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The margins I think we'll win by:
Saints- 27
Suns - 15
Dees - 5
Eagles - 32
More seriously though, 4 games in 15 days is BS. "ANY TIME, ANY WHERE" I get and like but still.......jeez....
Saints- 27
Suns - 15
Dees - 5
Eagles - 32
More seriously though, 4 games in 15 days is BS. "ANY TIME, ANY WHERE" I get and like but still.......jeez....
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With that schedule i imaging no real training.
Recovery plus very light duties
Not to mention they have to fit their real job into the timeframe
So after reading their board's opinions I really want to annihilate their team. Snuff out any chance, or belief, in finals action.
I feel no kinship with the GC. They are nothing more than another obstacle to our flag. An easy beat obstacle (unless the umps decide to help them out, ala, Rd 3 2020 where they drew with us but where the game would have been over early in the 2nd qtr), but an obstacle all the same. I said in an earlier post that we'll beat them by 15pts but I want the girls to steamroll them. Treat them with the same disdain as we treated Carlton.
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"Anytime, Anywhere" is our team motto but it still sucks arse given how much rest time the other teams get compared to us. It's like the AFL want us to fail.
Personally I would like our girls to show them the intensity we can bring over four quarters.
The one comment on their board that stuck out to me, was that teams can’t keep up the intensity over 4 quarters that they displayed early in their game last night.
And I thought to myself, have you not watched Brisbane and Adelaide.
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On top of all that, do we still have to play the Bulldogs?
No really. Just one poster thinks that Suns have a chance due to Lions s**t schedule. You know pretty well that there are only 2 posters on Suns board that are eternal optimists. The rest of us are pretty reasonable when assessing Suns and Lions girls teams and their performances.
FWIW, for me Crows are the best team so far, Lions not far behind. Suns surprisingly to me look now like a middle team after expecting bottom 2 position.
BTW, I do love watching Lions girls
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Melbourne just get free after free in front of goals. Also, GWS have around 6 minutes not to finish the game scoreless.
Makes me laugh that they adding extra teams when about half of the competition is not competitive. Only Port will do well, Sydney will weaken GWS (who are already average) and Essendon and Hawthorn will just dilute the talent that could be in the struggling Melbourne clubs.
Makes me laugh that they adding extra teams when about half of the competition is not competitive. Only Port will do well, Sydney will weaken GWS (who are already average) and Essendon and Hawthorn will just dilute the talent that could be in the struggling Melbourne clubs.
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Wonder whats the go with Woosh?
I don't know, but from my seat her output has been a bit below expectation this year. In a game where forward opportunities can be few and far between, she's burned too many of them.
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I hope we conserve as much energy as possible on Thursday night against the Suns whilst winning the 4 points, maybe even rest a few key operators if we can afford it to be in the best condition when we play Melbourne on Monday. Then bring back Jess & Farc against the Dees so that they are fresh for that contest.
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With The Crows 1 point loss the top 2 & 3-6 race has opened up a bit
The Lions must beat the Suns this week to keep top 2 chance alive along with staying in the top 6
Percentage is an issue but winning more important than %
A loss puts us on equal points and games played with the Suns. This would make things tough going into the next 2 games (Mel, WCE) within 15 days
We need to win 2 of these 3 to hold a spot in the top 6
I assume this years final 6 format is the same as in 2021.
I can't find anything official other than top 6 format. It must be somewhere
So no matter what position 1 through 6 any loss and you are out
So, top 2 need 2 wins to claim GF and 3 to 6 need 3 wins
Teams are evening out a bit so don't think winning the GF from 6th is a stretch in AFLW
The Suns game is an important one in a very short season
Our 4 wins were Saints (by 5 pts), Pies (24), Cats (2), Blues (35)
This indicates we have had an easy fixture run to date as can be seen on the ladder position.
The Lions must beat the Suns this week to keep top 2 chance alive along with staying in the top 6
Percentage is an issue but winning more important than %
A loss puts us on equal points and games played with the Suns. This would make things tough going into the next 2 games (Mel, WCE) within 15 days
We need to win 2 of these 3 to hold a spot in the top 6
I assume this years final 6 format is the same as in 2021.
I can't find anything official other than top 6 format. It must be somewhere
So no matter what position 1 through 6 any loss and you are out
So, top 2 need 2 wins to claim GF and 3 to 6 need 3 wins
Teams are evening out a bit so don't think winning the GF from 6th is a stretch in AFLW
The Suns game is an important one in a very short season
Our 4 wins were Saints (by 5 pts), Pies (24), Cats (2), Blues (35)
This indicates we have had an easy fixture run to date as can be seen on the ladder position.
| Pos | Team | Pld | W | L | D | PF | PA | PP | Pts | Qualification |
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| 1 | Fremantle | 7 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 302 | 143 | 211.2 | 24 | Finals series |
| 2 | Adelaide | 6 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 252 | 124 | 203.2 | 20 | Finals |
| 3 | Melbourne | 6 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 267 | 151 | 176.8 | 20 | Finals |
| 4 | North Melbourne | 6 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 218 | 137 | 159.1 | 20 | Finals |
| 5 | Brisbane | 5 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 165 | 129 | 127.9 | 16 | Finals |
| 6 | Collingwood | 6 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 184 | 158 | 116.5 | 16 | Finals |
| 7 | Gold Coast | 5 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 181 | 179 | 101.1 | 12 | |
| 8 | Western Bulldogs | 5 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 142 | 175 | 81.1 | 8 | |
| 9 | Greater Western Sydney | 5 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 133 | 193 | 68.9 | 8 | |
| 10 | Richmond | 6 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 211 | 260 | 81.2 | 4 | |
| 11 | Geelong | 6 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 149 | 192 | 77.6 | 4 | |
| 12 | West Coast | 6 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 125 | 224 | 55.8 | 4 | |
| 13 | Carlton | 6 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 126 | 277 | 45.5 | 4 | |
| 14 | St Kilda | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 106 | 219 | 48.4 | 0 |
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Had a little spare time the last few days, so pieced together a little mid-season review on the women's team. Tried to be realistic yet respectful of the fact they're only semi-professional. Also, I'm unaware of pronouns, so apologies if I got it wrong. I also could have spend more time proof-reading, but whatever, it is what it is, big whoop wanna fight about it?
Interested to hear what other have to think, where I've been a bit harsh/generous.
#1 Emily Bates – Just when you think the game might start going past a player, you get slapped in the face with your prediction. Without question the best player on the team this year. Finding the footy a lot more and hitting the scoreboard. 9.5/10
#2 Tahlia Hickey – Criminally underrated by many, I have her as our second-best overall this year behind Bates. Is winning hitouts and follows up at ground level with athleticism/endurance and good skills. At this stage, she is playing predominantly as a defensive style ruck who drops back into the D50. 8.5/10
#3 Bre Koenen – The new skipper has been rock-solid and consistent, having to cover the loss of Lutkins and Campbell while attempting to gel together a group of recruits and youngsters. 7/10
#4 Sharni Webb – Returning after the birth of their child in 2021, she has been in and out of the side, but her experience and reputation as a Ms Fix-it have proved valuable so this year. 4/10
#5 Jade Ellenger – Has locked down a role in the team on a wing with her each-way running, but also plays defensively with a hard edge that belies her light frame. Getting better each year. 6.5/10
#6 Lily Postethwaite – Sitting out 2022 while recovering from an ACL tear. N/A
#7 Gabby Collingwood – After missing 2021 with an ACL and working her way back into a forward pocket role, tragedy struck when she raptured the ACL in her opposite leg. N/A
#8 Maggie Harmer – Yet to debut. N/A
#9 Orla O’Dwyer – While it seems as though teams are happy to sit off her, much of the time she is outworking opponents with superior endurance. Her run & carry has been invaluable this season, racking up nearly 2000 metres gained. To go to the next level, she needs to work on nailing her disposal from her favoured left boot, finishing off in front of goal and getting some kind of right boot, otherwise opposition are going to be able to start anticipating her movements (if it hasn’t started already). 8/10
#10 Nat Grider – You wouldn’t think at 21yo she would be classed as an experienced head down back but has been among the most consistent players this year, building on a breakout 2021. Hard at the contest and creative, although at time her decision-making can be a little off – something that should improve with experience. 7.5/10
#11 Phoebe Monahan – Has proved very dependable since switching from the Tigers at the end of last season, Phoebe has slipped seamlessly in the defensive unit into the role vacated by the retired Emma Zielke. Her spoiling and foot skills have been a highlight. 6.5/10
#12 Sophie Conway – Has had an interesting start to the season after missing Round 3 through COVID- protocols. The wing role she made her own in recent seasons seems to be shared more with Ellenger and she seems to pop up all over the ground. As with a lot of the players it’s easy to forget she’s relatively young at just 22yo. Maybe needs to shelve the Dusty-style fend offs as they’re really not working 6/10
#13 Kate Lutkins – Season cut short by an ACL injury in the opening game of the season. N/A
#14 Dakota Davidson – One of the few who has had an inconsistent year, partly due to injury. But only 2 goals for the year is a poor return compared to 2021. 4.5/10
#15 Greta Bodey – Arguably our most consistent forward this year, Greta has shown her trademark dash and creativity to set up play and hit the scoreboard herself. 7.5/10
#16 Bella Smith – Yet to debut. N/A
#17 Belle Dawes – Another who has arguably has not hit the form of 2021, although the Round 6 performance against St Kilda was a step in the right direction. 5.5/10
#18 Ally Anderson – Held against the high standards of season past, Ally’s form probably isn’t quite there at the moment. Not bad by any stretch, but the pace with which the AFLW is evolving means she might need a few tweaks to her game. Her disposal count is down a little and she seems to have less time and space to dispose of the footy. 6/10
#19 Luka Yoshida-Martin – Hard to judge a player off one game as their opponents tend to give them a little more space than an established opponent. Showed flashes as a goal sneak. 3/10
#20 Shannon Campbell – Before her concussion in Round 5, was showing all the traits that has made her one of the most dependable players on the list. Has had to shelve the rebounding part of her game to play a bit deeper in defence. 6.5/10
#21 Courtney Hodder – Whereas in her first season she probably sneaked under the guard of a few teams, she is getting less time and space this year, kicking only the one goal so far. As a result, she’s turning her efforts a little more to the defensive pressure inside the F50, with the occasional stint onball. 5.5/10
#22 Zimmi Farquarson – Burst on the scene with a stunning debut in Round 3 kicking a goal and looking a little like Jared Brennan. After a quiet second game, another 2 goals in Round 5 before missing the next round. As with many naturally gifted players, finding the balance between individual brilliance and team-first ethos and second efforts will take a little time, but You have to think she will be persisted with. 6/10
#23 Jess Wuetschner – A fan favourite, Jess seems less and less able to rely on her footy smarts as the pace of the game quickens, although she still can hit the scoreboard as evidenced by her 4 goals this year. It’s hard to know to what extent the lightning strike of a couple of years ago still affects her. 5/10
#24 Lula Pullar – Only a couple of games in, but she has shown a steady if not spectacular start to her career in defence. Like many others who’ve come to Australian Football from other sports, there’s a lot to learn, but you feel like she will get the best out of herself. 4.5/10
#25 Cathy Svarc – At 30yo, we probably must resign ourselves to the fact that her disposal will never be brilliant and her role in the team is usually the designated run-with player. But boy when she turns on the afterburners, it’s exciting. Performing her role excellently. 7/10
#26 Indy Tahau – You feel like you’ve barely sighted her this year, but she just seems to be doing her job as required down back. Still only 19yo. 5.5/10
#27 Michaela Pauga – Yet to debut. N/A
#28 Maria Moloney – Just the one game this year for Maria where she was asked to play an unfriendly forward pocket role. While her effort and professionalism can’t be faulted, she is probably in that awkward position of being on the chopping block come season’s end. 2/10
#29 Ruby Svarc – Has gone from delisted at the end of the 2021 season to finding a role in the forward line. If you think sister Cathy is fast, I’d say Ruby has her covered. Has just started using her speed and seems to be improving each week. 4.5/10
#30 Jess Wardlaw – 2022 has seen a more mature approach from Jesse. In previous seasons you might have seen a lack of second efforts, especially after marking contests. This year however it’s all much more even – she crashes packs, her ruck craft is improving and is looking to bring in her teammates into the game. All that probably doesn’t reflect on the stats sheet that much, but it feels like it’s only a matter of time before she tears the comp apart. 7/10
#31 Taylor Smith – Along with Wardlaw, you get the impression Taylor is just starting to believe how good she can be. Needs to work her disposal and ruck work is she is going to be second ruck. 6/10
Interested to hear what other have to think, where I've been a bit harsh/generous.
#1 Emily Bates – Just when you think the game might start going past a player, you get slapped in the face with your prediction. Without question the best player on the team this year. Finding the footy a lot more and hitting the scoreboard. 9.5/10
#2 Tahlia Hickey – Criminally underrated by many, I have her as our second-best overall this year behind Bates. Is winning hitouts and follows up at ground level with athleticism/endurance and good skills. At this stage, she is playing predominantly as a defensive style ruck who drops back into the D50. 8.5/10
#3 Bre Koenen – The new skipper has been rock-solid and consistent, having to cover the loss of Lutkins and Campbell while attempting to gel together a group of recruits and youngsters. 7/10
#4 Sharni Webb – Returning after the birth of their child in 2021, she has been in and out of the side, but her experience and reputation as a Ms Fix-it have proved valuable so this year. 4/10
#5 Jade Ellenger – Has locked down a role in the team on a wing with her each-way running, but also plays defensively with a hard edge that belies her light frame. Getting better each year. 6.5/10
#6 Lily Postethwaite – Sitting out 2022 while recovering from an ACL tear. N/A
#7 Gabby Collingwood – After missing 2021 with an ACL and working her way back into a forward pocket role, tragedy struck when she raptured the ACL in her opposite leg. N/A
#8 Maggie Harmer – Yet to debut. N/A
#9 Orla O’Dwyer – While it seems as though teams are happy to sit off her, much of the time she is outworking opponents with superior endurance. Her run & carry has been invaluable this season, racking up nearly 2000 metres gained. To go to the next level, she needs to work on nailing her disposal from her favoured left boot, finishing off in front of goal and getting some kind of right boot, otherwise opposition are going to be able to start anticipating her movements (if it hasn’t started already). 8/10
#10 Nat Grider – You wouldn’t think at 21yo she would be classed as an experienced head down back but has been among the most consistent players this year, building on a breakout 2021. Hard at the contest and creative, although at time her decision-making can be a little off – something that should improve with experience. 7.5/10
#11 Phoebe Monahan – Has proved very dependable since switching from the Tigers at the end of last season, Phoebe has slipped seamlessly in the defensive unit into the role vacated by the retired Emma Zielke. Her spoiling and foot skills have been a highlight. 6.5/10
#12 Sophie Conway – Has had an interesting start to the season after missing Round 3 through COVID- protocols. The wing role she made her own in recent seasons seems to be shared more with Ellenger and she seems to pop up all over the ground. As with a lot of the players it’s easy to forget she’s relatively young at just 22yo. Maybe needs to shelve the Dusty-style fend offs as they’re really not working 6/10
#13 Kate Lutkins – Season cut short by an ACL injury in the opening game of the season. N/A
#14 Dakota Davidson – One of the few who has had an inconsistent year, partly due to injury. But only 2 goals for the year is a poor return compared to 2021. 4.5/10
#15 Greta Bodey – Arguably our most consistent forward this year, Greta has shown her trademark dash and creativity to set up play and hit the scoreboard herself. 7.5/10
#16 Bella Smith – Yet to debut. N/A
#17 Belle Dawes – Another who has arguably has not hit the form of 2021, although the Round 6 performance against St Kilda was a step in the right direction. 5.5/10
#18 Ally Anderson – Held against the high standards of season past, Ally’s form probably isn’t quite there at the moment. Not bad by any stretch, but the pace with which the AFLW is evolving means she might need a few tweaks to her game. Her disposal count is down a little and she seems to have less time and space to dispose of the footy. 6/10
#19 Luka Yoshida-Martin – Hard to judge a player off one game as their opponents tend to give them a little more space than an established opponent. Showed flashes as a goal sneak. 3/10
#20 Shannon Campbell – Before her concussion in Round 5, was showing all the traits that has made her one of the most dependable players on the list. Has had to shelve the rebounding part of her game to play a bit deeper in defence. 6.5/10
#21 Courtney Hodder – Whereas in her first season she probably sneaked under the guard of a few teams, she is getting less time and space this year, kicking only the one goal so far. As a result, she’s turning her efforts a little more to the defensive pressure inside the F50, with the occasional stint onball. 5.5/10
#22 Zimmi Farquarson – Burst on the scene with a stunning debut in Round 3 kicking a goal and looking a little like Jared Brennan. After a quiet second game, another 2 goals in Round 5 before missing the next round. As with many naturally gifted players, finding the balance between individual brilliance and team-first ethos and second efforts will take a little time, but You have to think she will be persisted with. 6/10
#23 Jess Wuetschner – A fan favourite, Jess seems less and less able to rely on her footy smarts as the pace of the game quickens, although she still can hit the scoreboard as evidenced by her 4 goals this year. It’s hard to know to what extent the lightning strike of a couple of years ago still affects her. 5/10
#24 Lula Pullar – Only a couple of games in, but she has shown a steady if not spectacular start to her career in defence. Like many others who’ve come to Australian Football from other sports, there’s a lot to learn, but you feel like she will get the best out of herself. 4.5/10
#25 Cathy Svarc – At 30yo, we probably must resign ourselves to the fact that her disposal will never be brilliant and her role in the team is usually the designated run-with player. But boy when she turns on the afterburners, it’s exciting. Performing her role excellently. 7/10
#26 Indy Tahau – You feel like you’ve barely sighted her this year, but she just seems to be doing her job as required down back. Still only 19yo. 5.5/10
#27 Michaela Pauga – Yet to debut. N/A
#28 Maria Moloney – Just the one game this year for Maria where she was asked to play an unfriendly forward pocket role. While her effort and professionalism can’t be faulted, she is probably in that awkward position of being on the chopping block come season’s end. 2/10
#29 Ruby Svarc – Has gone from delisted at the end of the 2021 season to finding a role in the forward line. If you think sister Cathy is fast, I’d say Ruby has her covered. Has just started using her speed and seems to be improving each week. 4.5/10
#30 Jess Wardlaw – 2022 has seen a more mature approach from Jesse. In previous seasons you might have seen a lack of second efforts, especially after marking contests. This year however it’s all much more even – she crashes packs, her ruck craft is improving and is looking to bring in her teammates into the game. All that probably doesn’t reflect on the stats sheet that much, but it feels like it’s only a matter of time before she tears the comp apart. 7/10
#31 Taylor Smith – Along with Wardlaw, you get the impression Taylor is just starting to believe how good she can be. Needs to work her disposal and ruck work is she is going to be second ruck. 6/10
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Some of your #'s are a bit diff for me, but a good analysis.
Personally my favourites to watch have been Grider and Bodey. Really happy with Monahan and Hickey. Hoping Tahau can have a ripping end to the season too.
My heart is in my mouth basically each time Svarc (the elder) or O'Dwyer have the ball and take the run. They have speed and daring, but golly sometimes the resulting disposal doesn't live up to the run (but when they get it rights it blows up the game wide open)
I am always horrendous at judging the form of midfielders, but yeh Bates is having a great year.
Looking forward to the next stage of their careers for Smith, and the lord Farquaad, might not be getting everything to click at the moment but they look to have exciting futures.
Now if we can stop dumping it behind Hodder's head she can have a really great finish to her season.
Personally my favourites to watch have been Grider and Bodey. Really happy with Monahan and Hickey. Hoping Tahau can have a ripping end to the season too.
My heart is in my mouth basically each time Svarc (the elder) or O'Dwyer have the ball and take the run. They have speed and daring, but golly sometimes the resulting disposal doesn't live up to the run
(but when they get it rights it blows up the game wide open)I am always horrendous at judging the form of midfielders, but yeh Bates is having a great year.
Looking forward to the next stage of their careers for Smith, and the lord Farquaad, might not be getting everything to click at the moment but they look to have exciting futures.
Now if we can stop dumping it behind Hodder's head she can have a really great finish to her season.
