Discussion 2022 General AFL Discussion

[Stan_Darsh72]

Though Clarkson and Fagan have been named, there are a number of times when Coaching group is used to talk about club actions. How many clubs have had Hawks assistants become senior figures at their clubs thanks to Clarko. Which ones were part of this and which ones weren't?

Ourselves, Western bulldogs and West Coast are 3 clubs off the top of my head

 

[stavro#4]

Is it me or did Gil make it sound like Clarko is stepping down?

 

[BrutThough]

Is it me or did Gil make it sound like Clarko is stepping down?

He either needs to stand down or wait to be sacked.

I can't see how he can continue as a coach in this league. Same with Fagan.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Ourselves, Western bulldogs and West Coast are 3 clubs off the top of my head

Hardwick at Richmond, Bevo at the Dogs, Simpson at West Coast, Cameron at the Swans. Ratten at Saints. Also Wright at Collingwood?

 

[stavro#4]

He either needs to stand down or wait to be sacked.

I can't see how he can continue as a coach in this league. Same with Fagan.

Look my personal opinion is that if this is true.

Those responsible should be done in the game.

Would just be a huge mess for North.

 

[stavro#4]

Hardwick at Richmond, Bevo at the Dogs, Simpson at West Coast, Cameron at the Swans. Ratten at Saints. Also Wright at Collingwood?

Rath. Lethlean.

I’d say Roughead had NFI if Hodge didn’t.

 

[BrutThough]

Look my personal opinion is that if this is true.

Those responsible should be done in the game.

Would just be a huge mess for North.

Completely agree. Same goes with those employed by us if they are found to be involved.

 

[Sun Ra]

Rath. Lethlean.

I’d say Roughead had NFI if Hodge didn’t.

Quote: Lethlean ? Was he there ?

 

[Munga]

Clarko could be in heaps of trouble.
Modern Slavery Act Australia.
What is an example of modern slavery?

Modern forms of slavery can include debt bondage, where a person is forced to work for free to pay off a debt, child slavery, forced marriage, domestic servitude and forced labour, where victims are made to work through violence and intimidation.

Not a long bow to draw to breaking up marriages and forced terminations through intimidation.

He is in serious strife here. Serious go to jail stuff.

North are about to enter a world of pain...so is Clarkson...

Pity it didn't happen to Essendon with their magnificent recruiting processes.

James Hird says Gees I told you that what I did was not that bad compared to others.

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Jail? Geez, yeah I think his job might be the least of his worries now. Heavy stuff.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Newborns are hard work but a football club doesn’t get to decide whether you have one or not. If it’s true it’s staggering that they think they could do this.

Clarkson and Fagan should lose their jobs, simple as that.

That was horrifying to read.

Quite possibly one of the most disturbing footy scandals in a while. ****ing hell

 

[Sun Ra]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gil's handover to whoever just got extended. He'd need to see this through
you would think ?

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

This is potentially as big a story as the Bombers' flu shots. A few thoughts that come to mind...

Considering a fair chunk of current senior coaches (including our own) worked at the Hawks under this regime, the repercussions might be felt far and wide.

Without trying to dismiss the allegations, I hope the players involved have been able to receive the right support and can find peace with their families.

I hope the perpetrators are never seen again in our game. If that means Clarkson and Fagan (or even Ratten) are gone, so be it. But I feel this Birt guy might end up being the fall guy, regardless of his involvement, because he's not in the "AFL bubble".

Part of me hopes this isn't the tip of the iceberg and we find out all clubs operate this way, that would be heartbreaking for our game. But another part of me hopes all clubs take a look in their closets and get all of this out in the open, because that's the only way it can get addressed.

Pathetic to have indigenous round and all that talk when shit like this still happens behind closed doors. They don’t really give a **** about it apparently. This goes far beyond stomping out nuffies on social media throwing slurs out, this is systematic workplace racism.

 

[Yawkey way]

It is absolutely inexcusable. Every single bit of it. Their legacies will have to be seriously tarnished after this.

Thank heavens Clarkson is not at our club.

 

[stavro#4]

Looking like one Down

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

We live in a world where Clarkson and Hird could both be coaching next season.

Actions speak louder than words, and if they are both coaching at AFL level next season, it means their actions are effectively fine.

And that is a disgrace.

**** it if it’s going to be opposite world let’s make Wayne Carey a coach and also put him as head spokesman for domestic violence week

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Not sure John knows what woke means

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Term has lost all meaning. Essentially anyone using it has no clue

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gil's handover to whoever just got extended. He'd need to see this through
you would think ?

Mate I reckon gil was trying to get out before this did.

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Just as a slight aside, Russell Jackson once again shines a light where the AFL doesn't want lights shone.

His articles are always meticulous.

 

[stavro#4]

Just a side note

But how do you even stand down a coach until this investigation has been done.

It could take months.

 

[Yawkey way]

A lot less than this will get you sacked in every major sport, it will have you forced to sell your franchise as an owner

Is it me or did Gil make it sound like Clarko is stepping down?

I think for Clarkson there is no other course of action.

 

[Sun Ra]

Just as a slight aside, Russell Jackson once again shines a light where the AFL doesn't want lights shone.

His articles are always meticulous.

He's just won a Walkley just quietly.

 

[Jack Stevens]

The Family Club

 

[Ads734]

At this point the accusations /allegations are pretty agregious. However, only one side has said their piece, with not a lot of context. I just struggle to be Beilieve that anyone/Clarko would tell a player to terminate a baby in a way the article insinuated.

 

[Sun Ra]

Just a side note

But how do you even stand down a coach until this investigation has been done.

It could take months.

This is a nuclear bomb for the AFL.

 

[Plugger35]

The Family Club

More like the Manson Family, these allegations sound more like the work of a cult than a club.

If they are proven true then it's hard to see Clarkson and Fagan surviving this, it would be a massive blow for North if they had to find another coach.