Discussion 2022 General AFL Discussion

[George]

So no one was called a racist but that is the most important thing............

If you want to get hung up on those words that's okay. I also said insinuations, your very defensive tone I think shows how difficult it is for people to question allegations of racism in a fair and reasonable manner. I think there's bigger issues to discuss and I think those that have questioned the story have made fair and reasonable points.

 

[Verdun]

If you want to get hung up on those words that's okay. I think there's bigger issues to discuss and I think those that have questioned the story have made fair and reasonable points.

Your words George...racism.


Who was called out as a racist - words are important.

 

[George]

Your words George...racism.


Who was called out as a racist - words are important.

I'm not doing this again buddy You say more than words ever could with how defensive you have made this. It's just a discussion, relax mate. People are allowed to question things without an interrogation from your end.

My initial comment about being called a racist for questioning alleged racism was like I said, from personal experience. People on here called me a racist for not believing Harry O'Brien. I had an opinion on him from people close to him. Now this story has come up and all I was trying to say is that I would hope that people don't have the same experience because they want to question what happened and do so by making decent points and discussing it fairly.

 

[gringo2011]

I was under the assumption that there would be a conclusion by end of year. Is that not happening anymore? Really interested to see what comes of it.

The alleged victim has pulled out of the AFL investigation. You imagine that it will be "investigated" and come up with a finding that allows both coaches to get back to work and do some kind of cultural sensitivity workshop. The AFL has a vested interest in it being swept under the rug. This helps that immeasurably.

 

[gringo2011]

Yea maybe mate but I’m really not digging how the complainant (one in particular) is throwing grenades via the media without proper process or consequence. Absolutely kills a fair inquiry & in fact compromises her own credibility.

Yeah, not great for process.

 

[Verdun]

I'm not doing this again buddy You say more than words ever could with how defensive you have made this. It's just a discussion, relax mate. People are allowed to question things without an interrogation from your end.

Same - words have an impact.

Definition of defensiveness don't call me a racist.

Chill mate.

 

[triggering bro]

Yeah, not great for process.

And the media eat this shit up, exploiting all angles & those involved. They love a divisive narrative; gets clicks. They don’t care that peoples lives can get destroyed in the process.

 

[Verdun]

And the media eat this s**t up, exploiting all angles & those involved. They love a divisive narrative; gets clicks. They don’t care that peoples lives can get destroyed in the process.

Who are you referring to?

 

[George]

The alleged victim has pulled out of the AFL investigation. You imagine that it will be "investigated" and come up with a finding that allows both coaches to get back to work and do some kind of cultural sensitivity workshop. The AFL has a vested interest in it being swept under the rug. This helps that immeasurably.

Did they say why? Honestly after the initial story broke and Gil got on the telly to say they'd investigate it I haven't followed it. Been waiting to see what the report showed but if the two alleged are already back working I assume the initial story lacked credibility like TB mentioned

 

[triggering bro]

Who are you referring to?

The media.

 

[gringo2011]

Did they say why? Honestly after the initial story broke and Gil got on the telly to say they'd investigate it I haven't followed it. Been waiting to see what the report showed but if the two alleged are already back working I assume the initial story lacked credibility like TB mentioned

She says that she's already given her story and doesn't trust their process.

 

[triggering bro]

She says that she's already given her story and doesn't trust their process.

She doesn’t need to be involved in the AFL process, she’s running her own on Twitter.

 

[Verdun]

She doesn’t need to be involved in the AFL process, she’s running her own on Twitter.

Is that ok with you?

 

[George]

She says that she's already given her story and doesn't trust their process.

Did she initially want an external investigation (is it external)? Reckon she'll try and put together her own process with the other people involved?

If it was me and I had an industry as big as the AFL by the throat I wouldn't let off. They surely need to be held accountable for what they've alleged to have done.

 

[triggering bro]

Is that ok with you?

Is that ok with you?

 

[Verdun]

Is that ok with you?

Yup

NO problem from me.


You?

 

[George]

Twitter handle please xo

 

[Verdun]

Who was called a racist??

Diidums

 

[Mowman]

She doesn’t need to be involved in the AFL process, she’s running her own on Twitter.

Twitter handle please

 

[triggering bro]

Yup

NO problem from me.


You?

Good for you pal.

 

[Verdun]

Good for you pal.

Cheers ol boy

 

[George]

She doesn’t need to be involved in the AFL process, she’s running her own on Twitter.

Seriously though have you got the Twitter hahaha

I will have a snoop and see if I can find it anyway

 

[George]

The alleged victim has pulled out of the AFL investigation. You imagine that it will be "investigated" and come up with a finding that allows both coaches to get back to work and do some kind of cultural sensitivity workshop. The AFL has a vested interest in it being swept under the rug. This helps that immeasurably.

Another one tonight or same one?

 

[jwikked]

Is that ok with you?

She’s throwing mud hoping some will stick. If she actually cared about an outcome, she’d be a part of the investigation. I don’t buy that argument that the AFL wouldn’t do anything if the investigation corroborates these claims

 

[Verdun]

Another one tonight or same one?

Yep that makes all the people who were not called racist feel a lot better.


The investigation is in jeopardy!!