List Mgmt. 2022 List Management: Draft, Trade and FA Pt2: Electric Boogaloo

[eastfreo75]

Lol

That’s why we are not trading him.

 

[eastfreo75]

A third round pick for Acres is a joke. I don't understand why we let him go, I watched our finals game against the bull dogs and he was really prominent.
He's been really super this year and is only 26 yo and I think he has finally hit his peak and found his place on the field. He is so good overhead and his kicking is generally really good, can kick a goal too. 189cm tall ,big body ,tackles well ,huge tank, runs both ways ,he looked to be really hitting his straps and would have been great for us for the next 4 or so years at least.
It just doesn't make sense ,I'd rather him then Logue to be honest and Logue too ,we should have kept as an important swingman, they are rare and a really good thing to have.
Not sure what they are doing at the club but if these players were not that important in their eyes ,why are all the eastern states clubs going after them with really good contracts, Carlton needed a wingman , so we just said here ,we'll give you Acres ,we have shaped him and he's now an A grade wingman. Now we have a big hole to fill, doesn't make sense.

In our stage of development, a mid-late third round pick is useless.

If the Blues don’t want to give up a second round, let Acres go to the draft.

 

[eastfreo75]

I heard garlic say last week, that we have positioned ourselves very well with tpp to attack this years trade period aggressively.

Apart from Jackson, who is the other target?

 

[eastfreo75]

Young is doing very very well to make this look like we re indeed clearing the decks for Jackson.

I know Young plays games but Bell is playing with a straight bat.

Bell is pretty stubborn and won’t trade out contract players for something that isn’t useful to us.

Pick 29 won’t get it done for Lobb, F3 won’t get it done for Acres, 49 or F3 won’t get it done for Meek, Logue we are screwed, and Tucker isn’t worth much but is contracted.

Teams need to be creative and offer something we can use ie pick upgrades, splitting picks or trading players.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Feel like this is going to be a painful trade period for us. The cumulative worth of the players leaving based on their experience/position is a lot more valuable to us than their market value separately, and Jackson’s market value is a lot higher than his current worth.

Hope the club knows what they’re doing. If Bell can wield a win or even a break-even here we need to build a statue.

 

[eastfreo75]

Feel like this is going to be a painful trade period for us. The cumulative worth of the players leaving based on their experience/position is a lot more valuable to us than their market value separately, and Jackson’s market value is a lot higher than his current worth.

Hope the club knows what they’re doing. If Bell can wield a win or even a break-even here we need to build a statue.

It’s all about hand.

Logue - no hand, Roos will offer a F2. That’s a lose and no fault of Bell.

Acres - we have little hand but a third round pick is useless to us. Worst case is a F3 and best case F2

Lobb - we have already stated we won’t be trading him out. The Dogs or another team will need to play overs. Pick 29 won’t get it done.

Tucker - isn’t worth much except depth for us. Roos will need to trade a F3 to get him or we hold him for depth.

Meek - we have hand because he is contracted and will have a few teams after him. It’s a second round pick or we kept him for insurance next year.

Jackson is an interesting one. Divides people on his value to Fremantle. We have little hand and I don’t know what his true worth is.

 

[pK75]

There’s a reason acres and Logue were low balled with there offers mid way though the year. I mightn’t be 900 but would have to be close

The reason we were low balling both Logue and Acres is because we were offering huge $$ to Angus plus whatever we were offering Jackson, we nearly had him but Melbourne offered additional years to beat our offer and he miraculously started playing midfield again once he signed on with them.
Once Angus was out of the picture we upped our offer to Logue and added a year to the Acres offer but it was too little too late. We now have the Angus $$ available to enable us to hold firm on Lobb and bring in Jackson.
Alternatively if the dogs stump up enough in a trade to change our mind (15 with something going back) then we have the $$ to attempt to lure someone else.
Seriously the melts about us cooking the list are priceless, have faith everyone.

 

[Joao]

I heard garlic say last week, that we have positioned ourselves very well with tpp to attack this years trade period aggressively.

Counterpoint: I heard some random journo on trade radio say that everyone is leaving to fit Jackson in. Get better sources CTD...

is Anyone bullish or "meh" about Sharp. I didnt realise he was in the system for so long. Also his under18 highlights didnt get me excited at all

Meh. I want to be bullish (he was good at the u18 champs as an underager) but the lack of contested game puts him in the likely to fail category to me.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

The reason we were low balling both Logue and Acres is because we were offering huge $$ to Angus plus whatever we were offering Jackson, we nearly had him but Melbourne offered additional years to beat our offer and he miraculously started playing midfield again once he signed on with them.
Once Angus was out of the picture we upped our offer to Logue and added a year to the Acres offer but it was too little too late. We now have the Angus $$ available to enable us to hold firm on Lobb and bring in Jackson.
Alternatively if the dogs stump up enough in a trade to change our mind (15 with something going back) then we have the $$ to attempt to lure someone else.
Seriously the melts about us cooking the list are priceless, have faith everyone.

Nothing has been cooked but if what you’re describing is correct it’s definitely a stuff up on our end. Chasing someone who we ultimately missed out on and losing out on two current players in the process. The Lobb situation is temporary if we keep him this year he’s a certainty to leave next so he’s a 1 year player only. Though I think we all agree it’s just posturing to get max value out of him and the extra salary room and potential to chase players is nice but it adds up to a net loss right now unless something happens that we don’t know about yet.

 

[Swiggy]

The reason we were low balling both Logue and Acres is because we were offering huge $$ to Angus plus whatever we were offering Jackson, we nearly had him but Melbourne offered additional years to beat our offer and he miraculously started playing midfield again once he signed on with them.
Once Angus was out of the picture we upped our offer to Logue and added a year to the Acres offer but it was too little too late. We now have the Angus $$ available to enable us to hold firm on Lobb and bring in Jackson.
Alternatively if the dogs stump up enough in a trade to change our mind (15 with something going back) then we have the $$ to attempt to lure someone else.
Seriously the melts about us cooking the list are priceless, have faith everyone.

I'd still say Jackson is on big coin...

im not worried im surely belly & co will get the best out come

 

[Dockeroo]

Jon Ralph is pretty strong that Jeremy Sharp will “find his way to the dockers” in the HS this morning

 

[blue shark]

Jon Ralph is pretty strong that Jeremy Sharp will “find his way to the dockers” in the HS this morning

I think our systems, players are creating a winning environment.
Only Hogan was a bust, others have had their best year.
Pies thought Aish was rubbish, same for Acres, Brodie, Colyer.
Sharp has the height, 187cm, speed and stamina to be better.
I’d back us in to find another player
Interesting who has left that has excelled, besides Langdon who in my eyes
was already very good?

 

[Joao]

I think our systems, players are creating a winning environment.
Only Hogan was a bust, others have had their best year.
Pies thought Aish was rubbish, same for Acres, Brodie, Colyer.
Sharp has the height, 187cm, speed and stamina to be better.
I’d back us in to find another player
Interesting who has left that has excelled, besides Langdon who in my eyes
was already very good?

Pies did not think Aish was rubbish. He was firmly b22 at the Pies during that good run.

 

[Ge3ks]

I'm busting a gut not to be triggered and commence a tyrannical rant of epic proportions.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

Hey TheInjuryFactory would it be possible for you to please work some of your magic, and create a Danster Luke Jackson

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Luke Jackson

Age

23

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

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Career

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Last 5

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8.3

2star

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3.3

1star

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5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

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1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

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5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

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1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

posts roulette wheel? I think you know which responses it needs to feature! Hahaha

 

[Walkingwounded]

Let’s Talk about Anger Management!

 

[malpaso]

Meh, I'm still trying to recall one game where either Logue or Acres was the difference between winning and losing. Sure Acres played some decent footy but he's no match winner.

As for the others, we wold you trade them unless we win the trade?

Acres was directly involved in at least two of our good wins.. I remember distinctly he came out at halftime and went berzerk in a third term..
I don't think the term 'match winner' is needed but when your the best winger in a side that lacks wingers he's pretty damn important to our structure..

 

[DeanS]

I don't remember Acres ever going "berzerk" in a quarter

 

[Dockeroo]

Now they are saying Geelong is looking to get pick 7 from Gold Coast by taking on Jack Bowes

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Jack Bowes

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

18.0

4star

K

11.8

5star

HB

6.3

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

318.1

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

$800k contract next year.
How the actual **** is that possible?? How can the cats do that and stay under the cap??

 

[s_wd6]

I don't remember Acres ever going "berzerk" in a quarter

3rd quarter vs hawks right before he did his hammy he was single handedly keeping us in the game

 

[Superkoops]

Now they are saying Geelong is looking to get pick 7 from Gold Coast by taking on Jack Bowes $800k contract next year.
How the actual * is that possible?? How can the cats do that and stay under the cap??

Joel Selwood retirement?

Bowes, 7 > F1

 

[Paracleet]

Lol at all the melting at the potential low value of an Acres trade. His best is AFL standard wing (i.e. average) and his worst is, not good. If we could net the equivalent in points to pick 35 its more than good business.

If our list wasn't so young we wouldn't be having this discussion as he'd have been in the magoos this year and delisted last week. He doesn't have the sacred fire.

 

[Scham]

Losing Acres and Logue who are both solid AFL players and WA boys to Melbourne clubs seems on the surface to be madness. Inside knowledge at the club must be accounted for. Perhaps knowing the battles Acres has had with softness is why the club had performance clauses in his contract.
Sharp has the potential to surpass Acres with the right coaching in his home environment. He is a very quick, goal kicking wingman.
Overall our team will be better off if those on the inside with all the knowledge have made the right call.

EFA

 

[Ge3ks]

Joel Selwood retirement?

Bowes, 7 > F1

Tom Hawkins possibly retiring according to Nat Edwards.

 

[s_wd6]

Tom Hawkins possibly retiring according to Nat Edwards.

So those two free up what? 600k? And they want to bring in bruhn and Henry too. No way they can afford Bowes too...