2023/2024 Gold Coast Draft & Trade periods

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One trend that seems to be consistent amongst non-Victorian clubs that are genuinely challenging for the premiership these days is the recruitment of talent from your home state - whether it be through the draft, trades or free agency. Prelim finalists Brisbane have done a really good job of recruiting the right Queenslanders like Charlie Cameron, Eric Hipwood, Harris Andrews and Keidean Coleman to put themselves in a position to genuinely compete for a flag. Fellow prelim finalists Sydney have done the same with local players like Callum Mills, Isaac Heeney, Nick Blakey and Errol Gulden taking the team forward. Even semifinalists Fremantle went about doing the same thing by recruited WA talents like Rory Lobb, Griffin Logue, Jye Amiss and we should be able to add Luke Jackson to that list soon.

It's these local talents that have really pushed the non-Victorian teams mentioned above into the territory of genuinely competing for a flag. Sure, Buddy Franklin and Lachie Neale are superstars but it takes 22 players to win a flag and it's the emergence of these local talents that have turned things around for the three clubs mentioned above. It seems that if you build a solid core of talents from your home state then that holds you in really good stead to genuinely compete for a flag and once you get to a certain point you get the opportunity to bring in other big name players like Lachie Neale, Joe Daniher and Buddy Franklin as well but the core of talent definitely seems to be more homegrown these days.

I think we made a really good start of this process last year when we brought Mabior Chol home to Queensland and you could even go back to recruiting Lachie Weller if you wanted an earlier start date. I guess you could also argue we've tried to do something similar this year by targeting NT players like Dan Rioli and Ben Long. Next year is when it should really go into overdrive with Jed Walter, Jake Rogers and Ethan Reid all potentially being first round picks. There aren't many other talented Queenslanders in the AFL that don't already play for one of the QLD teams other than Noah Cumberland and Bailey Scott so I think we have to focus on the draft/our academy for the time being but this tactical list build seems to be very consistent amongst the teams that compete for the premiership these days and I hope our recruiting staff are prioritising this to some degree.
 
They're probably thinking a straight swap haha. He plays tall for his height and is a good contested mark, but I think we are better off with a genuine crumber/goalsneak, stephen milne, jack ginnivan type.. Unless we tell Luko or Jeffery to go back.
 

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Sorry for intruding, but how do the Suns rate Flanders internally?
Obviously I'm sure everyone on here would love him (as most young players are loved) but would he potentially be up for trade or be willing to be traded?
Let me just call Dew.

Oh, he says highly rated internally.

Seriously. How the **** do you think we would know how he is rated internally? You realise that none of us that post here are part of the Suns football department or coaching staff.
 
Let me just call Dew.

Oh, he says highly rated internally.

Seriously. How the * do you think we would know how he is rated internally? You realise that none of us that post here are part of the Suns football department or coaching staff.
You woke up today and chose violence
 
You can't teach effort. And Sharp lacks it in droves, is great when he has the ball but if he doesn't have it, he is pathetic at stages.
I think effort can be instilled in players, particularly if they’re still young enough for the penny to drop.
Lots of kids think that they are working hard when in fact they’re really not. But often it takes a bit of maturity and experience to understand what hard work really is, then some self-discipline to put it into practice.
For example I started working at a panel beaters at 13, and I thought I was working hard, but it wasn’t until my early twenties that I really understood the effort required to confidently say, yes I’ve left no stone unturned in pursuit of my goals and objectives.
Of course there will always be those who just coast on natural ability without putting the work in and never fulfill their potential.
I think there’s still time for Sharp and we should persist unless we receive something fair in return for what we invested in him.
 
Dew is teaching Sharp how to become a 2-way winger instead of a 1-way winger.

Can’t be mad about that unless you’re Jeremy Sharp and your not happy playing in a VFL prelim….

Cmon mate earn your spot, blokes like Davies, Jeffery, Rosas, Oea, Flanders drafted around the same time as Sharp all had the same game time. But lucky for Sharp there is a massive hole on the wing, head down and it’s his for 2023 and no chance he leaves
 
Dew is teaching Sharp how to become a 2-way winger instead of a 1-way winger.

Can’t be mad about that unless you’re Jeremy Sharp and your not happy playing in a VFL prelim….

Cmon mate earn your spot, blokes like Davies, Jeffery, Rosas, Oea, Flanders drafted around the same time as Sharp all had the same game time. But lucky for Sharp there is a massive hole on the wing, head down and it’s his for 2023 and no chance he leaves
Elijah hollands has passed him for that wing spot in my opinion
 
Dew is teaching Sharp how to become a 2-way winger instead of a 1-way winger.

Can’t be mad about that unless you’re Jeremy Sharp and your not happy playing in a VFL prelim….

Cmon mate earn your spot, blokes like Davies, Jeffery, Rosas, Oea, Flanders drafted around the same time as Sharp all had the same game time. But lucky for Sharp there is a massive hole on the wing, head down and it’s his for 2023 and no chance he leaves
Davies was gifted games in a midfield that Dew said players like Constable and Flanders couldn’t break into, I can understand if they are pissed. The same can be said for Sharp who was in and out ( like Brodie) and never given the same opportunities as Davies, McPherson, Graham, Lemmons etc

There is no right or wrong here but the inconsistency of selection and the lack of development by both the player and the coaches to drive the change ( not just punish it) is disturbing to me

And example I would put forward is that it has been mentioned Brodie got exposed in finals football ( I haven’t seen the stats so can’t comment), but if he was in our team instead of Dave or Davies I think we would’ve had a better chance of making finals, how about we make them before worrying about winning them. Why you ask? as players like Brodie would of been worth more if we were a finals team and free agents would of been open to coming which lifts the whole club

Just my 2 cents
 
Damien Barret thinks pickett from Melbourne is gettable for port adelaide, s.a. boy heading home, but if he's willing to leave his current club, maybe he's willing to come up?

Gonna be a huge trade period, all clubs are gonna lose some players they didn't want to, we're not the only ones.
 
Elijah hollands has passed him for that wing spot in my opinion
I think Hollands is just a better player in general and could really play anywhere on the field better than most.

But surely next year he is ready to be unleashed in the middle and really get to show his talent? Touk, Noah, Rowell, Swallow, Hollands is a cracking mix.

Davies was gifted games in a midfield that Dew said players like Constable and Flanders couldn’t break into, I can understand if they are pissed. The same can be said for Sharp who was in and out ( like Brodie) and never given the same opportunities as Davies, McPherson, Graham, Lemmons etc

There is no right or wrong here but the inconsistency of selection and the lack of development by both the player and the coaches to drive the change ( not just punish it) is disturbing to me

And example I would put forward is that it has been mentioned Brodie got exposed in finals football ( I haven’t seen the stats so can’t comment), but if he was in our team instead of Dave or Davies I think we would’ve had a better chance of making finals, how about we make them before worrying about winning them. Why you ask? as players like Brodie would of been worth more if we were a finals team and free agents would of been open to coming which lifts the whole club

Just my 2 cents
My thoughts as well, even if it does come across to some as being negative. Just frustrating when all we want is success for the team but it feels like we are fighting with one arm tied behind our back with some of our decisions.

I will say though that Dew is generally a defence first coach, hence his preference for the players mentioned over Sharp, Brodie, Sexton etc who are one way players. So the standard is there for players on the fringe on what they need to provide to get a look in. As long as we still let them play free flowing, instinctive football (I.e McRae with Collingwood), instead of bogging their minds down with too many structures, I will continue to have faith in what we’re doing.
 
Davies was gifted games in a midfield that Dew said players like Constable and Flanders couldn’t break into, I can understand if they are pissed. The same can be said for Sharp who was in and out ( like Brodie) and never given the same opportunities as Davies, McPherson, Graham, Lemmons etc

There is no right or wrong here but the inconsistency of selection and the lack of development by both the player and the coaches to drive the change ( not just punish it) is disturbing to me

And example I would put forward is that it has been mentioned Brodie got exposed in finals football ( I haven’t seen the stats so can’t comment), but if he was in our team instead of Dave or Davies I think we would’ve had a better chance of making finals, how about we make them before worrying about winning them. Why you ask? as players like Brodie would of been worth more if we were a finals team and free agents would of been open to coming which lifts the whole club

Just my 2 cents
It was crook how many games Davies got this year, but might payoff come next year or the year after, when we’re making a proper run for finals. Not too many 190cm+ mids getting around and we’ve got two of them
 

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I think Hollands is just a better player in general and could really play anywhere on the field better than most.

But surely next year he is ready to be unleashed in the middle and really get to show his talent? Touk, Noah, Rowell, Swallow, Hollands is a cracking mix.


My thoughts as well, even if it does come across to some as being negative. Just frustrating when all we want is success for the team but it feels like we are fighting with one arm tied behind our back with some of our decisions.

I will say though that Dew is generally a defence first coach, hence his preference for the players mentioned over Sharp, Brodie, Sexton etc who are one way players. So the standard is there for players on the fringe on what they need to provide to get a look in. As long as we still let them play free flowing, instinctive football (I.e McRae with Collingwood), instead of bogging their minds down with too many structures, I will continue to have faith in what we’re doing.
Yeah there’s a reason Elijah was touted as a potential number one pick before he did his knee - he’s a gun, and Sharpie lasted until pick 27.
Agree I want to see Elijah in the middle next year which will free up a wing spot.
 
It was crook how many games Davies got this year, but might payoff come next year or the year after, when we’re making a proper run for finals. Not too many 190cm+ mids getting around and we’ve got two of them
Like many I think Davies received a lot of extra credits from Dew and co BUT live in hope that it will be rewarded. He's not dissimilar in build and height etc to Jarrod Berry from the Lions who is now showing the fruits of his lengthy period of development. Hopefully he will have to really perform to earn a place in 2023. Flanders, Sharp and Constable were the really hard done by trio - with Hollands only getting his belated go late in the year. Flanders got games, Sharp also and Charlie got one gig on the Sub seat! None really given an extended run as was Davies.
 
Let me just call Dew.

Oh, he says highly rated internally.

Seriously. How the * do you think we would know how he is rated internally? You realise that none of us that post here are part of the Suns football department or coaching staff.
No doubt, but sometimes people can still gauge it. Obviously I was wrong, sorry for intruding once again.
 
No doubt, but sometimes people can still gauge it. Obviously I was wrong, sorry for intruding once again.
Don't apologize to rude people.

It enables bad behavior.

Plenty of posters on club boards have close ties to the club or people who work there. On the Eagles board there are several. So your question was fair and reasonable.
 
No doubt, but sometimes people can still gauge it. Obviously I was wrong, sorry for intruding once again.

I am the most painful GC poster on BF according to some and even I thought it was a bit rough. I think old mate is trying to take my crown. You were all good sir.
 
I think Hollands is just a better player in general and could really play anywhere on the field better than most.

But surely next year he is ready to be unleashed in the middle and really get to show his talent? Touk, Noah, Rowell, Swallow, Hollands is a cracking mix.


My thoughts as well, even if it does come across to some as being negative. Just frustrating when all we want is success for the team but it feels like we are fighting with one arm tied behind our back with some of our decisions.

I will say though that Dew is generally a defence first coach, hence his preference for the players mentioned over Sharp, Brodie, Sexton etc who are one way players. So the standard is there for players on the fringe on what they need to provide to get a look in. As long as we still let them play free flowing, instinctive football (I.e McRae with Collingwood), instead of bogging their minds down with too many structures, I will continue to have faith in what we’re doing.
It got proven this year, defensiveness is not the winning formula.
All the teams with an attacking mindset cleaned up the defensively minded teams.
 
North board seem to be thinking they are getting pick 2 as their PP. Also that they will take 1 and 2 to the draft and most of them think they will likely go wardlaw/ cadman. Not sure how they get logue, tucker and maybe hill done without splitting one of their picks or trading someone like Thomas. Leaves the field a bit thin for our picks if it is the case though.
 
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