2023/2024 Gold Coast Draft & Trade periods

[Supersuns]

Sign him up for 4 years…. stat

Maybe for 80k a year

 

[Iva Bigun]

Maybe for 80k a year

Nah nah nah, Cameron will give him 600k

 

[Cheifkeith95]

when are our exit interviews ?

 

[Iva Bigun]

For all players not involved in the reserves it should be this week. Which is really concerning when you consider that Flanders apparently has not re-signed as this is when most of them say yeah thanks nah I’m out

 

[Sun Stormer]

Worst part is he will go to another club and explode into an elite player

So true. They'll be tough on him, he'll trim down a few kilos, get his endurance up and then tear us apart every time he plays us. Poor coaching and team selection never gave him enough time to get the pace of the game - while we kept playing O'aia for the politics of it all. Definitely one we will ultimately miss.

 

[ajhgcs]

So true. They'll be tough on him, he'll trim down a few kilos, get his endurance up and then tear us apart every time he plays us. Poor coaching and team selection never gave him enough time to get the pace of the game - while we kept playing O'aia for the politics of it all. Definitely one we will ultimately miss.

Ace looked like he wanted to play AFL, might not have the entire skill set, but always made an effort.

Hollands has not shown that at all this season, and I have no idea why we even played him this season.

Ellijah has talent clearly, but that will only get you so far in the AFL if you have no desire to work hard for your spot.

If trading Hollands is the wake-up call for him, then good, but if it isn't and shows the same at another club, then he'll be out of the AFL in 2 years.

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[Southern Sun]

So true. They'll be tough on him, he'll trim down a few kilos, get his endurance up and then tear us apart every time he plays us. Poor coaching and team selection never gave him enough time to get the pace of the game - while we kept playing O'aia for the politics of it all. Definitely one we will ultimately miss.

He's an elite endurance runner and looks like he needs to put on size.

 

[GC2015]

Dusty was named in the 44-man AA squad yesterday. We only had one played named but Noah isn't expected to make the final cut. Dusty seems like a better chance to make the final cut and that would be his 5th AA selection as well as the first since 2020. Probably suggests Dusty is playing the best footy he has since Richmond's 2020 premiership season when he was coincidentally based on the Gold Coast. Just feels like we need that sort of quality on our list to take the next step forward. One thing we know for sure is Dimma has been busy since we announced his appointment considering we just signed Richmond's data analyst.

Any word on Dusty's exit interview at Richmond now that Mad Monday celebrations are over? Feels like we could be informed of his decision one way or another any minute now...

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Dusty was named in the 44-man AA squad yesterday. We only had one played named but Noah isn't expected to make the final cut. Dusty seems like a better chance to make the final cut and that would be his 5th AA selection as well as the first since 2020. Probably suggests Dusty is playing the best footy he has since Richmond's 2020 premiership season when he was coincidentally based on the Gold Coast. Just feels like we need that sort of quality on our list to take the next step forward. One thing we know for sure is Dimma has been busy since we announced his appointment considering we just signed Richmond's data analyst.

Any word on Dusty's exit interview at Richmond now that Mad Monday celebrations are over? Feels like we could be informed of his decision one way or another any minute now...

Dusty is in that squad on reputation and a good last month.

 

[Deadpool]

The rumours of Dusty heading north have persisted for years. At least we will know if there was any truth to them now.

 

[Deadpool]

I would prefer a player too. I trust (maybe naively?) the club is doing everything it can to get a named player, as always. We have cap space. We have a pick we can’t use. Time to see if Hardwick can have some pull and help turn our fortunes.

If this actually turns into an off-season where our team gets better immediately due to one or two astute trades (see Brisbane as a blueprint), then our jump gets much easier! If not, then it’s just pedalling in future hope as per normal.

It's seems to me the good clubs have figured out that hollowing out your current year second and third round picks for future ones, retaining your first unless trading for a bona fide gun (ala Cerra) while chop-chopping your third and fourth rounders is the way to go.

Having a decent Academy should translate over to a trade flexibility reward once the AFL gets its shit together.

 

[TheGoldPersons]

Maybe our warmer weather would help with Dusty's and Prestia's soft tissue issues...

 

[GC2015]

Dusty is in that squad on reputation and a good last month.

I'd say the last 10 rounds or so have been pretty good for Dusty averaging 28 disposals, kicking 12 goals and overall being very influential in their last 7 wins of the season but he was certainly less influential earlier in the season. Should a player be named in the AA team if half his season is average (by his standards) and the other half is strong?

That rise in performance happens to coincide with the weeks that followed Dimma's resignation so I wonder if they had a chat about needing to perform better to justify his salary should he want to follow Hardwick to the GC. I remember midway through the season, everyone on this board was dead against bringing Dusty in on his massive salary but now it seems most of us are in favour of it. So if that was the plan, it worked.

 

[KaySwizzle]

This may be controversial…

Honestly, I’d trade away our chance at an academy player if it meant getting established players now.

Unfortunately the list isn’t as strong as we hoped, and more kids won’t change that for some time. We need to start winning or players will start getting picked off one by one.

For instance, I’d let go of a player like Rogers for a ready made, quality player in a second. We have plenty of young mids. We need a not-so-young mid or experienced outside user.

We need that “20%” that is missing ASAP. That’s the harsh reality, the way I see it.

 

[RowellAnderson12]

I'd say the last 10 rounds or so have been pretty good for Dusty averaging 28 disposals, kicking 12 goals and overall being very influential in their last 7 wins of the season but he was certainly less influential earlier in the season. Should a player be named in the AA team if half his season is average (by his standards) and the other half is strong?

That rise in performance happens to coincide with the weeks that followed Dimma's resignation so I wonder if they had a chat about needing to perform better to justify his salary should he want to follow Hardwick to the GC. I remember midway through the season, everyone on this board was dead against bringing Dusty in on his massive salary but now it seems most of us are in favour of it. So if that was the plan, it worked.

i was advocating for dusty back in round 6 when he had 25 and 1.3 against Melbourne. So i'd say he's been good all year

 

[Choppers]

9. Dustin Martin (Richmond)

“Last year he didn’t qualify based on the amount of minutes he’d played.”

Champion Data's top 10 players from the 2023 home and away season

Champion Data compares players based on their expected output from the position they play.

www.sen.com.au

 

[GC2015]

i was advocating for dusty back in round 6 when he had 25 and 1.3 against Melbourne. So i'd say he's been good all year

Then the AA selection is warranted with his strong second half of the season coupled with several good games early on. Dusty ranked 11th in the league for score involvements this year with 154. To put that in perspective our top 3 in that area were Noah Anderson (148), Jack Lukosius (133) and Matt Rowell (117). Really feels like an area we need to improve in and adding a guy that's essentially currently top 10 in the league would give us an instant boost.

 

[Choppers]

He also made their All Australian team

Champion Data's 2023 All-Australian team

Several MASSIVE shocks as Daniel Hoyne hands down the 22.

www.sen.com.au

 

[NOBBYS]

This may be controversial…

Honestly, I’d trade away our chance at an academy player if it meant getting established players now.

Unfortunately the list isn’t as strong as we hoped, and more kids won’t change that for some time. We need to start winning or players will start getting picked off one by one.

For instance, I’d let go of a player like Rogers for a ready made, quality player in a second. We have plenty of young mids. We need a not-so-young mid or experienced outside user.

We need that “20%” that is missing ASAP. That’s the harsh reality, the way I see it.

Understand your frustration , we all want some form of success sooner rather than later,,but there is no way we can off load any
Highly talented academy boys now or in the future. these lads have trained and played all there lives on the Gold Coast they our way
to being a long term successfull club.
Have watched alot of Rogers through his career .
He is super quick ,skilful and good disposal ,he is the future.

 

[KaySwizzle]

Understand your frustration , we all want some form of success sooner rather than later,,but there is no way we can off load any
Highly talented academy boys now or in the future. these lads have trained and played all there lives on the Gold Coast they our way
to being a long term successfull club.
Have watched alot of Rogers through his career .
He is super quick ,skilful and good disposal ,he is the future.

To be clear, I have no problem with taking 3 highly rated academy kids. It’s very exciting for us and QLD AFL and I’ve watched all three closely this year.

But we do the same thing every year, taking top rated kids, and expect different results, wondering why our competitors rise while we don’t. No matter how highly rated, draft picks are always speculative. There is risk, and time, required.

Now we have a new coach, again, and we hope things will be different. A lot of hope rides on Hardwick.

I love all our players, but we just seem to be lacking, and I think our lacking is due to more than a coach and a couple of highly touted academy kids. There are fundamental holes in the list that these three academy players may not fill (though we all hope they will).

It was just a (controversial) musing, is all.

 

[GC2015]

Highly talented academy boys now or in the future. These lads have trained and played all there lives on the Gold Coast they our way
to being a long term successful club.

It's really important to keep this front of mind for our future IMO. West Coast and Adelaide were able to capture their market not long after entering the AFL and look at what they did when they entered the league. They tapped into their rich talent at the grassroots level and pushed local stars like South Fremantle's John Worsfold Peter Sumich Peter Matera & Glen Jakovich, East Fremantle's Chris Mainwaring, Claremont's Guy McKenna etc who all became premiership players with West Coast. Adelaide did the same by pushing locals like North Adelaide's Darren Jarman, West Adelaide's Tony Modra & Mark Ricciuto, South Adelaide's Mark Bickley & Simon Goodwin etc and they also all became premiership players with Adelaide. All these guys became legends in their home city/state and inspired so many youngsters in WA & SA to dream of one day donning the Eagles/Crows guernseys.

Obviously we're nowhere near as talent rich as Western Australia or South Australia but it's pretty clear that we're making progress in this area and it would be regrettable to lose any of these academy stars after working so hard to develop them into first round talent. Imagine the kind of impact it could have on a junior from PBC or Broadbeach to see the likes of Jed Walter, Ethan Read, Jake Rogers, Will Graham and/or Leo Lombard holding up the premiership cup in a few years from now knowing they came from their junior club and made it all the way to the top. Success breeds success but an add on to that is a strong grassroots presence/pathway that will continually produce high end talent that dreams of donning the red and gold in the future. It's why you see players like Tim Kelly requesting a trade to West Coast and Izak Rankine requesting a trade to Adelaide. If we can nail that part of the equation then everything else should flow.

I have faith that Dimma has the ability to both recruit the players we need while also retaining our academy stars.

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

To be clear, I have no problem with taking 3 highly rated academy kids. It’s very exciting for us and QLD AFL and I’ve watched all three closely this year.

But we do the same thing every year, taking top rated kids, and expect different results, wondering why our competitors rise while we don’t. No matter how highly rated, draft picks are always speculative. There is risk, and time, required.

Now we have a new coach, again, and we hope things will be different. A lot of hope rides on Hardwick.

I love all our players, but we just seem to be lacking, and I think our lacking is due to more than a coach and a couple of highly touted academy kids. There are fundamental holes in the list that these three academy players may not fill (though we all hope they will).

It was just a (controversial) musing, is all.

I don't think anyone in the world is seeing our success hinge on the academy boys.

 

[sunsofanarchy]

What I think is so funny is that people say GC is a flop, the afl's pet, a basket case but the 2 key indicators show that participation is at record highs, higher than south australia, and the elite talent is being nurtured through our academy, and they cry about us having academy picks, hypocrisy manifest.

 

[KaySwizzle]

I don't think anyone in the world is seeing our success hinge on the academy boys.

For sure. But some people think Walter and Rogers will be best 22 as soon as next season, which suggests they are a part of our meteoric rise.

But if not, and if we only bring in 3 draft picks, where else does our success come from? The players we already have and “internal growth”?

Well every club around our mark is just as young and will be expecting internal growth from their recent young draft stars too. I often wonder what is going to make our internal growth better than Crows, or Fremantle, or Hawks? Because if it’s not, we get jumped or pushed back further.

Dimma may be enough to get us going. His signing is the most buzz we’ve had around the club in a long, long time and has me very excited for next season. But I think if we somehow got a player signing this year too, in whatever way we could, then it would finally make us look like a legitimate team that wants to push up the ladder.

 

[Sun Stormer]

For sure. But some people think Walter and Rogers will be best 22 as soon as next season, which suggests they are a part of our meteoric rise.

But if not, and if we only bring in 3 draft picks, where else does our success come from? The players we already have and “internal growth”?

Well every club around our mark is just as young and will be expecting internal growth from their recent young draft stars too. I often wonder what is going to make our internal growth better than Crows, or Fremantle, or Hawks? Because if it’s not, we get jumped or pushed back further.

Dimma may be enough to get us going. His signing is the most buzz we’ve had around the club in a long, long time and has me very excited for next season. But I think if we somehow got a player signing this year too, in whatever way we could, then it would finally make us look like a legitimate team that wants to push up the ladder.

I'm inclined to agree with you. We desperately need a Dusty type (if not him) and also a big and gun defensive player - as well as the crop of kids coming through. With Academy kids - you also assume they want to play for the Suns but has anyone asked them?