Player Watch 2023 AFL Draft Pool Discussion Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

Same rule applies to this thread as other years, keep it on topic about the kids.
Don’t get bogged down on what other teams might do or where they will finish.

Trade speculation belongs here.
That's also where you can discuss your mock drafts or pick trades.

Any McCabe, Dear or Maginness talk belongs here.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

I spoke to someone who works in talent spotting over the weekend, and I flagged my concerns at Watsons height. I was laughed at.

The feel is that his height is not a detractor, it's a massive point of difference that works in his favour.
I don't know who Allan Iverson is, but comparisons were made. Basically, get the ball in his hands 25 times forward of center and you win ...

AI (Allen Iverson) is a small but insanely quick, agile and skillful PG, he was one of the best dribblers the NBA has seen, his height was a big advantage for him in a sport dominated by talls & he had alot of confidence and swagger about him.

 

[cryptor]

I spoke to someone who works in talent spotting over the weekend, and I flagged my concerns at Watsons height. I was laughed at.

The feel is that his height is not a detractor, it's a massive point of difference that works in his favour.
I don't know who Allan Iverson is, but comparisons were made. Basically, get the ball in his hands 25 times forward of center and you win ...

The combination of his height and ball winning ability means he'll likely be 2nd for head high free kicks received by the end of his career.

 

[houdinihuddo]

chopflop - My biggest question mark on him would be his tank.

Nick Watson is a built like a bull. He has had to work his butt off to overcome his lack of height and as a result he appears to have a good tank. In addition he has the footy smarts to not waste his energy. I went to the Bendigo Pioneers vs Tassie Devils game and the Carlton vs Footscray VFL game to watch Harley Reid. He is certainly a highly skilled and extremely talented player. However I was surprised by what appeared to be a lack of body definition and he was more a burst player due to limited endurance. In contrast to Nick, Harley is a strong powerful young boy who has had the natural size and talent to dominate junior football. The sky will be the limit for Harley provided he is prepared to do the hard work required to be an elite AFL footballer. Nick Daicos is the classic example of a player who has left no stone unturned to become an elite AFL player. Great footy smarts and skills with an even greater work effic.

 

[KermitJagger]

Strapping Young Lad ban this man from everything.

SYL is more likely to delete the entire conversation, very anti-basketball reference. Prepare to be censored!

 

[eldorado]

Nevermind SYL...

Yours truly hates American sports...every single ****ing one.

You may presume that the NBA/NFL/MLB quota for this thread has now been reached....

 

[TDS7]

While everyone is rightfully excited about Duursma, I think Darcy Wilson may end up a better version of the same archetype of high-impact half-forward. Duursma is taller and has a better leap, but Wilson's work in contests is outstanding and his forward 50 sense of when to kick for goal or jab it into a forward is elite. I'd hesitate against both of them given we seem to run both CMacs and Moore as similar players, but I think Wilson ends up contesting a top 10 spot come October. It's still early days, but a tall forward always announces themselves at Champs and charges their way up to the top 5. Rate of improvement is a big indicator in my eyes, it shows diligence and drive to push yourself for greatness. Ward, both CMacs, and Weddle were massive risers, as was Cadman (who was a late/rookie back a year before the draft). One to watch would be Van Rooyen, who's been a star for Claremont's u18s and has been noticed by a lot of people as a real goal threat.

 

[VFLwatcher]

One I thought might of gone as a rookie is Darcy Edmends. He's playing VFL for Giants, not sure if he's a MSD hope?

I watched this kid closely last year played all vic metro games on the wing.
Has moved to GWS with 2 coaches of VIC Metro who look like they love him.

Great positioning as a winger and incredibly unselfish. Would only be better in the AFL system, I hope our Giants don’t lose him from under our feet.

Great skills and had a dominate last quarter against port Melbourne to help them win the game

 

[chopflop]

While everyone is rightfully excited about Duursma, I think Darcy Wilson may end up a better version of the same archetype of high-impact half-forward. Duursma is taller and has a better leap, but Wilson's work in contests is outstanding and his forward 50 sense of when to kick for goal or jab it into a forward is elite. I'd hesitate against both of them given we seem to run both CMacs and Moore as similar players, but I think Wilson ends up contesting a top 10 spot come October. It's still early days, but a tall forward always announces themselves at Champs and charges their way up to the top 5. Rate of improvement is a big indicator in my eyes, it shows diligence and drive to push yourself for greatness. Ward, both CMacs, and Weddle were massive risers, as was Cadman (who was a late/rookie back a year before the draft). One to watch would be Van Rooyen, who's been a star for Claremont's u18s and has been noticed by a lot of people as a real goal threat.

Wilson's sporting idol outside of the AFL is Eliud Kipchoge - so for haters of American sports, he is the man!

I think he will be a lock for top 10 and will push for top 5. He has an AFL game. He tested top 10 preseason in the YOYO and he has speed and agility to burn.

High half-forward/Wing and hits the scoreboard. A lot to like

 

[HawthornHawk]

Wilson's sporting idol outside of the AFL is Eliud Kipchoge - so for haters of American sports, he is the man!

I think he will be a lock for top 10 and will push for top 5. He has an AFL game. He tested top 10 preseason in the YOYO and he has speed and agility to burn.

High half-forward/Wing and hits the scoreboard. A lot to like

Also already looks good in brown and gold

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Wilson's sporting idol outside of the AFL is Eliud Kipchoge - so for haters of American sports, he is the man!

I think he will be a lock for top 10 and will push for top 5. He has an AFL game. He tested top 10 preseason in the YOYO and he has speed and agility to burn.

High half-forward/Wing and hits the scoreboard. A lot to like

Will he make the move into the midfield, or is he projecting as a winger at AFL level?

Ward played wing the year prior to his draft season, and successfully made the move into the midfield. Hopefully Wilson can do the same.

 

[SSSSSS]

Wilson's sporting idol outside of the AFL is Eliud Kipchoge - so for haters of American sports, he is the man!

I think he will be a lock for top 10 and will push for top 5. He has an AFL game. He tested top 10 preseason in the YOYO and he has speed and agility to burn.

High half-forward/Wing and hits the scoreboard. A lot to like

Should get Kipchoge as a Cat B rookie. Might blow up the GPS machines.

 

[Brishawk]

While everyone is rightfully excited about Duursma, I think Darcy Wilson may end up a better version of the same archetype of high-impact half-forward. Duursma is taller and has a better leap, but Wilson's work in contests is outstanding and his forward 50 sense of when to kick for goal or jab it into a forward is elite. I'd hesitate against both of them given we seem to run both CMacs and Moore as similar players, but I think Wilson ends up contesting a top 10 spot come October. It's still early days, but a tall forward always announces themselves at Champs and charges their way up to the top 5. Rate of improvement is a big indicator in my eyes, it shows diligence and drive to push yourself for greatness. Ward, both CMacs, and Weddle were massive risers, as was Cadman (who was a late/rookie back a year before the draft). One to watch would be Van Rooyen, who's been a star for Claremont's u18s and has been noticed by a lot of people as a real goal threat.

You had me at hello

Already on the Wilson train. But now my grin is bigger

 

[chopflop]

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[VFLwatcher]

Jaelen Pavlidis who made the move to GWS is going well from Western Jets playing mid/forward, kicked goal of the week against Essendon a few weeks ago. Do you think he might be a chance for MSD?

Pavlidis started the season off brilliantly, has had a few quieter weeks, perhaps an injury not sure?

I think the Giants have 2 lists spots available (Jones and Kennedy both ACL).
The Giants should take one of Edmends,Pavlidis,Ryan or Anderson
Possibly 2.

 

[geelongrecruit5]

Pavlidis started the season off brilliantly, has had a few quieter weeks, perhaps an injury not sure?

I think the Giants have 2 lists spots available (Jones and Kennedy both ACL).
The Giants should take one of Edmends,Pavlidis,Ryan or Anderson
Possibly 2.

I guess they’ll most likely draft like for like players to replace Jones/Kennedy, anyway, it sounds like they have a few good ones under their noses.

 

[Dewnior]

Wha happened to Caddy? Copped an injury early in the preseason but should be back. Has also grown to 193cm and could continue to grow. Seems to have disappeared from the discussion.

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[geelongrecruit5]

Wha happened to Caddy? Copped an injury early in the preseason but should be back. Has also grown to 193cm and could continue to grow. Seems to have disappeared from the discussion.

Nothing has happened, watch this space the lad will set the national carnival alight.

 

[daniel23]

Caddy would be my preference at our pick , he is exactly what we need. Everyone is obsessed with key forwards being 200 cm like the kings or Lewis when 2 of the best kpf in curnow and fogarty are 193/194 Max.

 

[Bugs1977]

AI (Allen Iverson) is a small but insanely quick, agile and skillful PG, he was one of the best dribblers the NBA has seen, his height was a big advantage for him in a sport dominated by talls & he had alot of confidence and swagger about him.

Wherever he ends up you can never underestimate the ones that have a big chip on their shoulder. Seriously though if he can put on as much pressure as a small forward the way Kozzie Pickett does then I'd love us to get him. I'm also a big believer in that you can't teach heart and this kid has that in spades.

At this stage I'd be happy with Watson or Duursma.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Will Elliot and Clay Tucker to suit up for Box Hill this week? They trained with us today.

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

Will Elliot and Clay Tucker to suit up for Box Hill this week? They trained with us today.

I don’t believe so. They are playing on Sunday for the AFL Young Guns against Victoria Metro. They will also play again on the 14th for the Young Guns against Victoria Country. Young Guns set to take on Vic Metro, Country in two-game series

 

[houdinihuddo]

The sides will meet at Trevor Barker Beach Oval on Sunday at 11:00am (AEST).
NAMESURNAMEDOBHTSTATE LEAGUE CLUBCOMMUNITY CLUB
Young Guns
1BeauTedcastle20-03-04177Richmond (VFL)St Mary's
2MitchSzybkowski09-01-04185Frankston (VFL)Beaconsfield
3JoziahNannup01-11-04183Dandenong StingraysDoveton
4TomBower20-08-04180Oakleigh ChargersGlen Waverley Rovers
5PaddyCross14-02-03182Casey Demons (VFL)Nar Nar Goon
6MichaelKiraly09-01-04186Bendigo PioneersMacleod
8RyePenny01-03-04186Calder CannonsGisborne
9ArchieSinnott28-07-04186Geelong FalconsNewtown & Chilwell
10JeddLongmire14-06-04188Collingwood (VFL) / Murray BushrangersBundoora
11NicholasNewton13-05-04187Murray BushrangersLavington
12JackCleaver22-05-04188Essendon (VFL)St Bernards
13EthanStanley13-11-03188Box Hill Hawks (VFL)Frankston YCW
14LukeTeal20-05-04190Richmond (VFL) / Oakleigh ChargersGlen Iris
15TomStern23-06-04191Gippsland PowerWarragul
18RyanMaric06-09-04193Gippsland PowerDrouin
20ZiggyToledo-Glasman15-04-04192Dandenong StingraysMt Eliza
21MitchDodos03-11-04196Bendigo PioneersKyabram
22HamishPierson03-11-04195Geelong FalconsGrovedale Tigers
24JovanPetric17-04-04197Western JetsKeilor
25ArcherMay27-08-04199Richmond (VFL) / Sandringham DragonsSt Kilda City
26LeviYoung15-01-04199Sandringham DragonsBeaumaris
28WilliamElliot11-06-04203Oakleigh ChargersSurrey Park
29ClayTucker09-08-04204Eastern RangesRowville
30FlynnRiley05-04-04206Northern KnightsMontmorency
Vic Metro
1 Isaac Kako 07-03-06 175 Calder Cannons Pascoe Vale
2 Taj Hotton 17-06-06 177 Sandringham Dragons Hampton Rovers
3 Tarkyn O'Leary 01-07-05 178 Sandringham Dragons Parkdale Vultures
4 Josh Docking 14-10-05 178 Sandringham Dragons Hampton Rovers
5 Caleb Windsor 09-07-05 183 Eastern Ranges Lysterfield
6 Kynan Brown 13-01-05 180 Oakleigh Chargers Blackburn
7 Mahmoud Taha 04-11-05 182 Calder Cannons Pascoe Vale
8 Nathan Philactides 10-01-05 180 Oakleigh Chargers Blackburn
9 Cameron Nyko 25-11-05 180 Eastern Ranges Healesville
10 Zak Johnson 24-12-06 185 Northern Knights St Mary's
11 Harvey Johnston 18-08-05 184 Sandringham Dragons Parkdale Vultures
12 Archie Roberts 18-11-05 183 Sandringham Dragons Hampton Rovers
14 Lucca Grego 15-09-06 183 Western Jets Bacchus Marsh
15 Charlton Harrop 13-07-05 186 Sandringham Dragons Beaumaris
16 Jake Smith 24-07-05 188 Western Jets Williamstown CYMS
17 Ryan Eyre 19-03-05 191 Calder Cannons Kilmore
18 Cooper Trembath 17-10-05 192 Eastern Ranges Park Orchards
19 William Brown 16-06-05 193 Sandringham Dragons East Brighton
*****20 Calsher Dear 04-08-05 194 Sandringham Dragons Beaumaris
22 Remy Maclean 14-10-05 194 Eastern Ranges East Ringwood
23 Christian Mardini 18-06-05 197 Northern Knights Bundoora
24 Jordan Croft 12-05-05 200 Calder Cannons Maribyrnong Park
26 Riley Weatherill 21-11-05 195 Eastern Ranges East Ringwood
27 William Green 08-09-05 202 Northern Knights Northcote

 

[geelongrecruit5]

Will Elliot and Clay Tucker to suit up for Box Hill this week? They trained with us today.

You’ll see a number of Coates League players suit up in the VFL this week.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Nathan Philactides dad is a development coach at Boxhill. I wonder if we are interested in the lad.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]