List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading

[spenze]

I'd like us to give guys who haven't played a block of 3 games before cutting them, at least you would know...and for the love of god, stop signing our borderline top 30 players like Murphy to 2 year contracts before round 5. We seem so keen to lock these guys in early when they'd surely not be on any other clubs shopping list.

Sloane will get another contract, I just hope if we do it is just 1 year

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Playing on through injury really drives a player's perceived value into the ground

The amount of "trade Doedee" posts certainly went up this year.

 

[maxlilly]

I wonder if Sloane and Tex are going to be doing there next contract extension through the media like Tex did last year ?
It's not a good look if they do.

 

[maxlilly]

I am fine with delisting Sloane, Crouch, McAsey, Seed, Moose and Borlase.

I would move two of Newchurch, Murphy and Hately to the rookie list and delist one. We need to upgrade Murray to the main list.

That gives us 4 (or 3 if we don't trade our future first) main list spots, no (or one) rookie spots and 2 cat b spots.

If we need another list spot, Nank would be next in line to delist. IMO, bringing in any 70+ draftee over Nank would be a fail.

I'm pretty sure there are a few in front of Nankervis to delist before his name comes up.
I'm hoping he debuts this year and gets a few games to show what he's got

 

[Big Dub]

I'm pretty sure there are a few in front of Nankervis to delist before his name comes up.
I'm hoping he debuts this year and gets a few games to show what he's got

He's behind Jones, Schoenberg, Butts, Worrell, McAdam, Tex, Doedee and Taylor for mine. Which means he'd be the next one up of the players with contracts ending in 2023.

I would keep him rather than get the extra list spot.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The amount of "trade Doedee" posts certainly went up this year.

This is what happens when the club was stupidly playing him injured as Worrell played sanfl...

 

[Tex Danger]

Just can’t see the value in letting Doedee go as a free agent, he’s not going to attract a big contract to get us decent compo.

Hately for depth is one you can definitely wait on as no one else will pick him up

If we are targeting redman too then we would get No compo, it’d simply become a straight swap

 

[Danger in Texas]

If we are targeting redman too then we would get No compo, it’d simply become a straight swap

Unless you trade for Redman or trade Doedee, but that seems like it could get messy, and defeats the purpose of bringing in a FA in the first place

Really, if we’re targeting a Redman or HH, you need to know all your FAs are staying

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

If we are targeting redman too then we would get No compo, it’d simply become a straight swap

& no win.

Make no sense at all.

I

 

[jackster83]

& no win.

Make no sense at all.

I

Doedee leaving might not be our choice though.

If he goes, I'd rather Himmelberg or Redman than pick 30.

 

[spenze]

I wonder if Sloane and Tex are going to be doing there next contract extension through the media like Tex did last year ?
It's not a good look if they do.

Sloane will be on the front foot to the media if he hasn't got a new contract in place by May

 

[Tex Danger]

& no win.

Make no sense at all.

I

Doedee leaving might not be our choice though.

If he goes, I'd rather Himmelberg or Redman than pick 30.

Exactly

you don’t not bring in a player just because you don’t want to lose FA compo. Itd be annoying but it doesn’t stop you. And maybe redman would be seen as the replacement, or an upgrade. It really becomes a trade minus negotiation

 

[1970crow]

Considering Doedee is a third or (more realistically) fourth tall, he's quite replaceable if he decides to go, at least on field. That said, it's certainly is a bit of a dagger to the idea we're starting to build a culture that footballers want to be a part of if he does.

the culture thing is overblown. We want players that demand success, if Dood leaves, it's not a good sign.

 

[1970crow]

I wonder if Sloane and Tex are going to be doing there next contract extension through the media like Tex did last year ?
It's not a good look if they do.

we should have made Tex wait till off-season as a matter of principle. He deserved the extension, but going public is a terrible look for a leader. Hopefully both him and Sloane have been told to zip it. That Sloane has spoken openly about remaining captain isn't a great sign though. The culture of senior player entitlement continues unabated.

 

[1970crow]

Sloane will be on the front foot to the media if he hasn't got a new contract in place by May

as soon as he cracks 20 touches we'll be hearing about rival clubs offering 2 year deals. Nothing is more certain.

 

[Big Dub]

as soon as he cracks 20 touches we'll be hearing about rival clubs offering 2 year deals. Nothing is more certain.

End of second round compo?

 

[1970crow]

End of second round compo?

that'd be my opening offer.

 

[GROTTO]

Is Sloane retiring?

He and his wife have a new baby, he definitely wont be looking at retiring. Its why he wants the captaincy in 2023, not only locks him in the side, it will also add leverage in him negotiating a new contract.

In reality I felt the AFC should have paid him out and reached an agreement in 2022, that he would retire due to his ACL.

 

[Mostyn]

He and his wife have a new baby, he definitely wont be looking at retiring. Its why he wants the captaincy in 2023, not only locks him in the side, it will also add leverage in him negotiating a new contract.

In reality I felt the AFC should have paid him out and reached an agreement in 2022, that he would retire due to his ACL.

I've never really understood people who make stuff up to be upset about.

 

[1970crow]

I've never really understood people who make stuff up to be upset about.

I've never really understood people who make up other people's emotions out of sheer nothingness.

 

[GROTTO]

We should be looking at bringing in a FA in 2023.

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2023 AFL free agents (via The Age)​

* Previously delisted


^ Previously a free agent

Adelaide (6)​

Matt Crouch^, Tom Doedee, Andrew McPherson, Paul Seedsman, Rory Sloane^, Taylor Walker^

Brisbane (6)​

Nakia Cockatoo, Ryan Lester, Rhys Mathieson*, Conor McKenna^, Daniel Rich^, Dayne Zorko^

Carlton (6)​

David Cuningham, Ed Curnow, Sam Docherty, Sam Durdin, Lachie Plowman, Jack Silvagni

Collingwood (5)​

Mason Cox^, Jack Crisp, Jeremy Howe^, Cooper Murley*, Scott Pendlebury^

Essendon (4)​

Dyson Heppell^, Darcy Parish, Mason Redman, Will Snelling*

Fremantle (3)​

Nat Fyfe^, Lachie Schultz*, Michael Walters^

Geelong (6)
Mark Blicavs, Jon Ceglar*, Tom Hawkins^, Sam Menegola*, Isaac Smith^, Rhys Stanley

Gold Coast (6)​

Jed Anderson, Connor Blakely, Levi Casboult, Charlie Constable, Sam Day^, Jake Stein*

GWS Giants (7)​

Phil Davis, Matt Flynn, Harry Himmelberg, Lachie Keeffe, Daniel Lloyd, Callan Ward, Jacob Wehr

Hawthorn (3)​

Fergus Greene, Seamus Mitchell, Dylan Moore*

Melbourne (3)​

Luke Dunstan, James Jordon, Alex Neal-Bullen

North Melbourne (7)​

Todd Goldstein^, Daniel Howe, Ben McKay, Liam Shiels, Kayne Turner, Lachie Young, Jack Ziebell^

Port Adelaide (9)​

Travis Boak^, Riley Bonner, Charlie Dixon, Trent Dumont, Francis Evans, Tom Jonas, Scott Lycett^, Trent McKenzie, Dylan Williams

Richmond (8)​

Nathan Broad, Jason Castagna, Trent Cotchin^, Dylan Grimes^, Kamdyn McIntosh^, Bigoa Nyuon*, Jack Riewoldt^, Robbie Tarrant^

St Kilda (5)​

Tom Campbell, Jade Gresham, Daniel McKenzie^, Jimmy Webster^, Mason Wood

Sydney Swans (4)​

Lance Franklin^, Lewis Melican, Dane Rampe^, Sam Reid^

West Coast (7)​

Jamie Cripps, Shannon Hurn^, Jamaine Jones, Jeremy McGovern^, Luke Shuey^, Zane Trew, Isiah Winder*

Western Bulldogs (7)​

Taylor Duryea^, Ryan Gardner, Tom Liberatore^, Toby McLean^, Tim O'Brien^, Roarke Smith, Bailey Williams

 

[Tex Danger]

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2023 AFL free agents (via The Age)​

* Previously delisted


^ Previously a free agent

Adelaide (6)​

Matt Crouch^, Tom Doedee, Andrew McPherson, Paul Seedsman, Rory Sloane^, Taylor Walker^

Brisbane (6)​

Nakia Cockatoo, Ryan Lester, Rhys Mathieson*, Conor McKenna^, Daniel Rich^, Dayne Zorko^

Carlton (6)​

David Cuningham, Ed Curnow, Sam Docherty, Sam Durdin, Lachie Plowman, Jack Silvagni

Collingwood (5)​

Mason Cox^, Jack Crisp, Jeremy Howe^, Cooper Murley*, Scott Pendlebury^

Essendon (4)​

Dyson Heppell^, Darcy Parish, Mason Redman, Will Snelling*

Fremantle (3)​

Nat Fyfe^, Lachie Schultz*, Michael Walters^

Geelong (6)
Mark Blicavs, Jon Ceglar*, Tom Hawkins^, Sam Menegola*, Isaac Smith^, Rhys Stanley

Gold Coast (6)​

Jed Anderson, Connor Blakely, Levi Casboult, Charlie Constable, Sam Day^, Jake Stein*

GWS Giants (7)​

Phil Davis, Matt Flynn, Harry Himmelberg, Lachie Keeffe, Daniel Lloyd, Callan Ward, Jacob Wehr

Hawthorn (3)​

Fergus Greene, Seamus Mitchell, Dylan Moore*

Melbourne (3)​

Luke Dunstan, James Jordon, Alex Neal-Bullen

North Melbourne (7)​

Todd Goldstein^, Daniel Howe, Ben McKay, Liam Shiels, Kayne Turner, Lachie Young, Jack Ziebell^

Port Adelaide (9)​

Travis Boak^, Riley Bonner, Charlie Dixon, Trent Dumont, Francis Evans, Tom Jonas, Scott Lycett^, Trent McKenzie, Dylan Williams

Richmond (8)​

Nathan Broad, Jason Castagna, Trent Cotchin^, Dylan Grimes^, Kamdyn McIntosh^, Bigoa Nyuon*, Jack Riewoldt^, Robbie Tarrant^

St Kilda (5)​

Tom Campbell, Jade Gresham, Daniel McKenzie^, Jimmy Webster^, Mason Wood

Sydney Swans (4)​

Lance Franklin^, Lewis Melican, Dane Rampe^, Sam Reid^

West Coast (7)​

Jamie Cripps, Shannon Hurn^, Jamaine Jones, Jeremy McGovern^, Luke Shuey^, Zane Trew, Isiah Winder*

Western Bulldogs (7)​

Taylor Duryea^, Ryan Gardner, Tom Liberatore^, Toby McLean^, Tim O'Brien^, Roarke Smith, Bailey Williams

Would that be one of the weaker lists of FA to start a season?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Would that be one of the weaker lists of FA to start a season?

Bigoa Nyuon is a baller

 

[GROTTO]

Would that be one of the weaker lists of FA to start a season?

I was thinking the same. No one really jumps out at you on that list. Like wowee.

Doedee would be a great grab by a Vic Club.

 

[GROTTO]

Bigoa Nyuon is a baller

He goes by the nickname Biggie.