AFL Grand Final 2024 AFL Grand Final - Sydney Swans vs Brisbane Lions

[Lighthouse End]

Goes to show that all the uncontested marks they racked up against us was a poor reflection on us and our game plan rather than their superior game plan.
Being able to play exactly the game they wanted to against us was probably the worst preparation they could have had for the Grand Final.

Not exactly, what was exposed in the GF and was going to happen regardless of who the opposition was, that the Toilet Ducks may well be the AFL's love child, and the darlings of the media and those who generate the hoopla and hyperbole - i e those whose salaries are paid from Channel 7's Sydney owners and therefore wear the Sydney team like a pair of arabian goggles - is that they are actually a very average side at best and Longmire isn't the miracle coach everyone thinks he is.

Aside from the fluke in 2012, that's four successive thrashings in Grand Finals for Longmire and a string of piss poor performances from their supposed ' top line ' players in the big dance after looking unstoppable all year.
Goes to show that it's OK to swim to the deep end with your pool noodle and water wings, but when the aids and support is removed and you're left to fend for yourself, you drown.
Satisfying result, Brisbane are a far better side and it's always beautiful to watch these red and white freeloaders getting smoked.

Kind of baffled though why neither club wore their ' traditional ' guernseys yesterday as the game was in Melbourne. I wonder if this was an AFL edict aimed at dispelling the notion of Vic bias and pushing their ' look what we've done for the game in the Northern States ' mantra.
You can fool some of the people some of the time....

 

[Lighthouse End]

The game is so good that it survives those attacks. But it’s annoying.

Sadly, the point that seems to escape the vast majority of the people is that the game has been morphed into a confected soap opera, created for and funded by the TV networks.
It's no different to Neighbours, or Home and Away. If you look closely enough at the start of each season, you can predict with reasonable accuracy which storylines will appear and the fate that will befall the main characters.

 

[Windy Cindy]

Makes you wonder if we had brought the same pressure to the Sydney game as the hawks game maybe we might have been competitive.

 

[rogerjames]

I couldn't believe my ears earleir when I heard Koch say that Kenny deserves a premiership.

Lol if there's anyone who doesn't deserve a premiership, it's a bloke whose been given 12 attempts and not come close!

That is so Koch. What other president would say such crap.

 

[rogerjames]

Makes you wonder if we had brought the same pressure to the Sydney game as the hawks game maybe we might have been competitive.

That is currently not in our DNA.

 

[rogerjames]

Goes to show that all the uncontested marks they racked up against us was a poor reflection on us and our game plan rather than their superior game plan.
Being able to play exactly the game they wanted to against us was probably the worst preparation they could have had for the Grand Final.

So much this last sentence

 

[Lighthouse End]

Like us after 2007, Sydney should not be allowed to make a Grand Final for a very long time.

All things being equal, this mob would struggle to play finals in the Bellarine League. But the AFL will ensure they are around the mark again lest their 1981 experiment fail. They have to keep NSW engaged otherwise their National competition's funding, vital for survival of parasite Melbourne clubs like North, St Kilda, Melbourne and Footscray, will be cut off.

 

[longdonkey]

Fitzroy won more finals than Richmond 1981 to 2016.

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LOL yeah Richmond had money but were steaming poo. Fitzroy always had some decent players but no money, supporters or facilities.

 

[Lighthouse End]

Yeah BT. I'm sure the 30 and 40 something's living in heavily gentrified Fitzroy are absolutely loving that the club that folded almost 30 years ago and are out on the streets tonight.

The community of Fitzroy has had nothing to do with the club at all since 1965 when the council booted them off the Brunswick St oval and they were banished across the city to St Kilda.
But if there is a heavy aroma of sandalwood and patchouli and an influx of goatee bearded sleeve tattooed beret wearing buddah stick smoking types on Johnstone St, St Georges Road and Brunswick St. tonight, he may well have a point...

 

[edgie]

LOL yeah Richmond had money but were steaming poo. Fitzroy always had some decent players but no money, supporters or facilities.

Didn't Richmond nearly go under in the late 80s?

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[JimmyBC]

Didn't Richmond nearly go under in the late 80s?

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I'm pretty sure they were on the bones of their ass at one point as were Collingwood.

Amazing how we are cast like the only club in history to have a rough patch in that sense.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Amazing how we are cast like the only club in history to have a rough patch in that sense.

Yeah, there was that one time in 2011 where we had our worst season in AFL history where we avoided the wooden spoon, trailed our crosstown rivals by a massive two positions on the ladder, and averaged more people at our home games than the team that's just flagged up.

No other team has ever has such a disastrous and prolonged period of shithousery by like, you know, actually finishing bottom or posting NRL-tier attendance figures.

But those tarps, eh. The biggest and most unnecessary own goal in the club's history and the genesis of the narrative of Kenneth the Messiah leading the unwashed lepers from Alberton into the promised land as recounted in the Gospel of St. Rooch.

 

[Lighthouse End]

I'm pretty sure they were on the bones of their ass at one point as were Collingwood.

Amazing how we are cast like the only club in history to have a rough patch in that sense.

Collingwood were 15 minutes away from being wound up by the creditors in 1986. Richmond had a public fundraising campaign to save them in 1992, not unlike Footscray in 1989. Hawthorn and Melbourne were on the brink of a merger in 1996 with Melbourne the dominant partner. Melbourne were also mooted in a merger with Fitzroy in 1986. North Melbourne have been on the VFL / AFL tit since the 80s.The only Vic clubs not to have been pulled out of desperate financial trouble in the last 40 or so years are Essendon and Carlton.
The admission of West Coast and Brisbane effectively saved St Kilda from oblivion and bought Fitzroy a further 10 year stay of execution.
Victorian football was in deep shit and dying a slow death by the mid 80s with nearly all the VFL clubs either bankrupt or on the skids, and nearly half the second tier ( VFA ) clubs folding between 1983-88, including very successful and powerful clubs like Brunswick, Oakleigh, Camberwell and Mordialloc. Going national was the only way out.

 

[JimmyBC]

Collingwood were 15 minutes away from being wound up by the creditors in 1986. Richmond had a public fundraising campaign to save them in 1992, not unlike Footscray in 1989. Hawthorn and Melbourne were on the brink of a merger in 1996 with Melbourne the dominant partner. Melbourne were also mooted in a merger with Fitzroy in 1986. North Melbourne have been on the VFL / AFL tit since the 80s.The only Vic clubs not to have been pulled out of desperate financial trouble in the last 40 or so years are Essendon and Carlton.
The admission of West Coast and Brisbane effectively saved St Kilda from oblivion and bought Fitzroy a further 10 year stay of execution.
Victorian football was in deep shit and dying a slow death by the mid 80s with nearly all the VFL clubs either bankrupt or on the skids, and nearly half the second tier ( VFA ) clubs folding between 1983-88, including very successful and powerful clubs like Brunswick, Oakleigh, Camberwell and Mordialloc. Going national was the only way out.

Collingwood were still running rough when Eddie McChins first took over as well and that prick loves reminding Port fans of the dark days at aami stadium every five minutes.

Not to mention none of these people ever acknowledge the ridiculous nature of SA football politics, shocking stadium deals, grudges & SANFL siphoning. Madness they'd all be dead clubs over there if they had to tackle it.

 

[edgie]

Collingwood were 15 minutes away from being wound up by the creditors in 1986. Richmond had a public fundraising campaign to save them in 1992, not unlike Footscray in 1989. Hawthorn and Melbourne were on the brink of a merger in 1996 with Melbourne the dominant partner. Melbourne were also mooted in a merger with Fitzroy in 1986. North Melbourne have been on the VFL / AFL tit since the 80s.The only Vic clubs not to have been pulled out of desperate financial trouble in the last 40 or so years are Essendon and Carlton.
The admission of West Coast and Brisbane effectively saved St Kilda from oblivion and bought Fitzroy a further 10 year stay of execution.
Victorian football was in deep shit and dying a slow death by the mid 80s with nearly all the VFL clubs either bankrupt or on the skids, and nearly half the second tier ( VFA ) clubs folding between 1983-88, including very successful and powerful clubs like Brunswick, Oakleigh, Camberwell and Mordialloc. Going national was the only way out.

Carlton and St Kilda also considered merging

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[tribey]

I’ve been saying this for a while. The size of the sack Hinkley thread is way overboard compared to the Koch thread. And the argument that starting with Hinkley as first to go and the others follow is not a guaranteed outcome. I have no idea how you turf a president but I’m convinced having him out first is the way forward. Or him falling on his sword as soon as Hinkley is gone would be the leadership thing to do, as he’s backed him to the hilt and beyond. If Hinkley goes and Koch stays put then I think what you have is a totally self interested and indulgent character running the club that could set us back further than we currently are.

The issue at hand is, stale, uninspired, complacent, out-of-depth, and tactically-inept coaches are replaced with hungry, inspiring, tactically-astute blah blah blah coaches all the time.

With the way our governance is, there’s no guarantee Koch isn’t replaced with a similar handpicked football-illiterate cheeseball who has been conditioned by the media and other defeatists to believe that Port is an existential minnow for whom anything over and above a mid-table finish is worthy of a key to the lighthouse.