I’m certainly not “on my own”.
My other comrades are the ones who matter. The stewards.
In fact, it appears there are quite a few on here who were on the wrong side of the law.
Much, much Max hate. And so much short memory on Lewis.
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My other comrades are the ones who matter. The stewards.
In fact, it appears there are quite a few on here who were on the wrong side of the law.
Much, much Max hate. And so much short memory on Lewis.
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Yet it was Lando who was given the lead on team orders to pit first, twice. You’ll never get it.
After all the column inches, all the angst on here and other social media sites, one stark fact remains……
F1 wins;
Lando : 1
Oscar : 1
F1 wins;
Lando : 1
Oscar : 1
The record books will forever show the winner of the Hungary F1 Grand Prix in 2024 is Oscar Piastri.
And anything else will be simply background noise.
End of argument.
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Nobody is hating on Max and there are no short memories on Lewis. But, we can acknowledge that Max is fully at fault. He divebombed when it wasn't on and was going straight off the track whether there was contact or not. Lewis turned because it was a corner. You turn the car when you get to a corner. What was Lewis supposed to do? Come to a complete stop or drive straight off the track to avoid a dumb as **** move from Max? He can't just magically disappear off the racing line.
Except we just watched it happen?
In the first 40 laps, when both drivers were following the same instructions, Oscar was significantly (by F1 standards) quicker.
In the last 20 laps, when Oscar was protecting a lead to 3rd and managing tyres as per instruction, Lando went off script and ignored team instructions, Lando was quicker.
Which do you think is more meritorious?
You are just arguing semantics though. I think we all would have preferred McLaren to stick to sensible strategy and not undercut their lead car twice for flimsy reasons because it is more than likely Oscar would have won from the position he was in. If Lando had managed to somehow catch him in the last stint on merit as you say, so be it.
The facts at the time of the 2nd undercut however were Oscar was comfortably leading, and had been since the very first turn of the race - with Lando not having made a dent in his lead bar a few laps after Oscar made a mistake, and even then was still over a second behind. Can we say for sure that Oscar wouldn't have made any more mistakes and lost time if he had been pitted first? No. But there is also no way we can say Lando would've caught Oscar with an 8 or so second advantage within 30 laps.
At the end of the day Oscar won his first race and McLaren get a 1-2 and valuable points in the WCC. End of story.
Team orders not giving the lead to Oscar, or if the roles were reversed not give the lead to Lando.
But not confirmed, we can't possibly know, we can only speculate.
And it would've been a meritorious win if Oscar wasn't given the lead through team orders. End of story.
Its Hungary my man you can defend on track with a car a second a lap slower let alone equal cars, how do you think ocon fluked a win here?
Max's failed attempts to pass lewis on much fresher boots tell you exactly all you need to know, track position secured the deal.
Norris reveals McLaren 'idiot' call that forced Piastri swap
Lando Norris missed out on a second career victory in F1, with McLaren imposing a team order late on to swap positions with team-mate Oscar Piastri.
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Likely yes but not assured.
Then maybe everyone stop replying inviting a reply.
McLaren have conceded the latter, but the issue was that if you let then race each other, then generally car in front gets pitted first. Norris got undercut twice. So in that context, the team would be saying battle each other, but tying Oscar's hand behind his back (severely limiting his ability to match an even battle).
99.99% but yes, oscar had his win unfairly tarnished by a team error
Which is disappointing.
will be rectified at spa, he was rapid here last year been my pick all season for his 1st win time to go back to back
If McLaren pitted him on merit, he'd have won on merit. But the team ****ed up and so team orders were required.
The win was earnt on merit nonetheless, because if Norris hadn't bottled the start - becoming a trend for him - then he'd have led after the first lap, he'd then have been pitted first as the lead car and he'd have driven off into the sunset.
Alas, Piastri got through turn 1 first and led even after the first round of pit stops, despite Norris undercutting him by 3 or so seconds. It wasn't until the second stop and second undercut that Norris grabbed the lead from Piastri.
Oh yeah! Oscar certainly has pace, as displayed in Hungary. Agreed.
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Are you suggesting that everyone should ignore you?
You keep saying meritorious. It doesn't make you sound smart. The opposite actually.
You couldn't define undercut in relation to racing. You don't know what you're talking about.
