Injury 2024 Injury Thread

[rgauci]

That's actually epic!!! Those first few months are killer! Perfect opportunity for partner support and 1st time dad adjustment, it can be rough. Small win for him.

Probably better to have a working hammy as a new dad though.

 

[FreoGirl]

We’ll know a bit more tomorrow when the injury list comes out. I expect both to be TBA.
I note that Freddy only had 65% Tog. Being managed? Hopefully just precautionary.

he looked pretty good when he kicked that goal

 

[muzzington]

The man himself believes he's back for Easter weekend

Jesus?

 

[DocT]

Does anyone have any experience with those heat/cold treatments on a loose ACL to tighten them up?

Lax ACL treatment to shorten/tighten

I have no info but doesn't sound useful. It's difficult to imagine that externally applied hot/cold would change the temperature of an ACL much, if at all, and harder to imagine that it would actually bring about change of any signifcance if it did.

 

[Taylor]

I have no info but doesn't sound useful. It's difficult to imagine that externally applied hot/cold would change the temperature of an ACL much, if at all, and harder to imagine that it would actually bring about change of any signifcance if it did.

What I saw was delivering the treatment to the ACL directly via arthroscopy.

Thermal Shrinkage for Anterior Cruciate Ligament (ACL) Repair

The ACL is a band of tough, fibrous tissue that stabilizes the knee. Injuries to the ACL are very common—especially among athletes. Most often, the injury happens when the knee is forced beyond its normal range of motion.

www.saintlukeskc.org

 

[ilikepotatoes]

The real question is whether ACL injuries require any surgical intervention at all.

I don't necessarily agree with it, but there is a massive push towards non-operative management going on at the moment coming from a few specialist physios in Perth.

 

[Taylor]

The real question is whether ACL injuries require any surgical intervention at all.

I don't necessarily agree with it, but there is a massive push towards non-operative management going on at the moment coming from a few specialist physios in Perth.

Similar to ankle outcomes being similar post op for one repair as they are just letting it heal by itself or are you talking about strength surrounding the joint making the need for the ACL less - I'm sure we've all seen people who popped their ACL in their teens and never had it fixed who are running around park footy seemingly just fine

 

[Waterhouzin]

They tend to collapse at random times though, have a mate in exactly that same boat, did his ACL in his 20’s, no surgery at all, now early 50’s and played plenty of footy in between. Lack of support in random movements drops him sometimes but he’s generally ok and fully functional.
I did mine in 2016 and post opp was trialled with a new machine that ran chilled water through a compression cuff, similar to a blood pressure cuff but running the length of the leg.
Didn’t seem to help as I had to go back under to break up the scar tissue that had formed.
I had the hybrid LARS combined with traditional which (apart from the above mentioned setback) worked really well, still playing now in my 50’s
LARS seems to have dropped off the radar, don’t hear of it anymore, is there any reason ?


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[Waterhouzin]

Just following on from that, when I did mine in 2016 I had a mate in my team do the same and had the LARS hybrid surgery same as mine but without the setbacks.
He was training in 12 weeks and played later that season at close to 50 years old, still playing now in his late 50’s.
I’m guessing a 25 yr old with full rehab facilities could come back quicker!
There must have been a number of failures with it as it doesn’t appear to be used anymore but from first hand experience it worked really well.
Now if only I could stop popping my shoulders out I could get back to pre-season…..


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[BStaff17]

If your not a pro athlete you can live off no ACL.

My mate did his ACL the week before his wedding playing soccer back in 2018 he would have been 23 at the time.

He didnt get it operated on as he doesn't have private health and sat out 3 years.

Came back after covid i think in 2022 nearly 3 and half years and played 2 thirds of the season with no ACL. Then it just collapsed again and he was done after that.

Still hasn't got it operated on just plays Golf these days.

 

[Dale147]

Hey guys, back again after my iPad died and have been off line for nearly 2 weeks.

 

[serial_thrilla]

ROUND TWO INJURY LIST:
Jaeger O’Meara (knee) – test
Ethan Stanley (ankle) – 2 weeks
Karl Worner (concussion) – 2 weeks
Nathan O’Driscoll (knee) – 2-3 weeks
Sean Darcy

4

Sean Darcy

Age

26

Ht

203cm

Wt

111kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

32.0

5star

(knee) – 3 weeks
Heath Chapman (hamstring) – 3 weeks
Corey Wagner (calf) – 5-7 weeks
Brennan Cox

36

Brennan Cox

Age

26

Ht

195cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

182.8

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.0

2star

MG

182.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

(hamstring) – 12-14 weeks
Oscar McDonald

21

Oscar Mcdonald

Age

28

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

(knee) – TBA
Odin Jones (concussion) - TBA
Josh Corbett

19

Josh Corbett

Age

28

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

(hip) – Season
Sebit Kuek (knee) - Season

RD2 Injury Update: Cox, McDonald & Worner

Brennan Cox will undergo surgery on a high-grade hamstring injury, while Oscar McDonald will also be sidelined for an extended period

www.fremantlefc.com.au

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Surely the club can give a LITTLE bit more information on McDonald

 

[freo1997]

JOM seems 50/50 at this stage.

 

[freo84]

Surely the club can give a LITTLE bit more information on McDonald

They are waiting for it to settle first apparently. The club put out their injury video on YouTube.

 

[Superkoops]

Surely the club can give a LITTLE bit more information on McDonald

They will when they get additional scans as the knee swelling settles. He will be out for a while. Basically he hasn’t ruptured the PCL or ACL but there is damage to ligaments and cartilage. Maybe a further update next week. Not expecting him to be back much before Cox to be honest. Let’s just say 12-14 weeks for both.

Draper until Chapman is ready is the go (ie next 3-4 weeks). Chapman to play tall until reinforcements are back.

Good opportunity for Chapman to settle into a position. He played all his West Perth colts footy as CHB.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

They are waiting for it to settle first apparently. The club put out their injury video on YouTube.

They will when they get additional scans as the knee swelling settles. He will be out for a while. Basically he hasn’t ruptured the PCL or ACL but there is damage to ligaments and cartilage. Maybe a further update next week. Not expecting him to be back much before Cox to be honest. Let’s just say 12-14 weeks for both.

Draper until Chapman is ready is the go (ie next 3-4 weeks). Chapman to play tall until reinforcements are back.

Good opportunity for Chapman to settle into a position. He played all his West Perth colts footy as CHB.

Yeah, I'm just selfish and want to know what it's looking like, should I be optimistic it's not a full ACL or pessimistic it's basically the same thing?

 

[freo84]

If your not a pro athlete you can live off no ACL.

My mate did his ACL the week before his wedding playing soccer back in 2018 he would have been 23 at the time.

He didnt get it operated on as he doesn't have private health and sat out 3 years.

Came back after covid i think in 2022 nearly 3 and half years and played 2 thirds of the season with no ACL. Then it just collapsed again and he was done after that.

Still hasn't got it operated on just plays Golf these days.

I tried living with a torn ACL and my knee continuously gave way. In the end i had the reconstruction as just walking was dangerous.

 

[serial_thrilla]

Interesting that the Odin Jones concussion is still TBC, whilst Worner went straight to 2 weeks.

 

[gaskin]

Interesting that the Odin Jones concussion is still TBC, whilst Worner went straight to 2 weeks.

He could be having lingering effects. A mate of mine got concussed nearly a year ago and is still getting negative effects from it.

 

[Superkoops]

Interesting that the Odin Jones concussion is still TBC, whilst Worner went straight to 2 weeks.

When was he concussed. Been a few weeks now.

 

[Superkoops]

Yeah, I'm just selfish and want to know what it's looking like, should I be optimistic it's not a full ACL or pessimistic it's basically the same thing?

My reading. Partial tears - not sure severity involving PCL/ACL (likely both). There was no rotation with the hyperextension so likely PCL took the brunt along with impact on the meniscus as the two bones pressed hard against each other at the anterior aspect of the medial meniscus. So also likely damage to meniscus (severity also unknown). Difficult to confirm best course of action as to surgery. This will be best determined when swelling subsides and repeat scans can better determine treatment plan.

 

[serial_thrilla]

When was he concussed. Been a few weeks now.

At least a couple.

 

[Nodgey]

Hope it’s not one of those where they decide no surgery required. Then 4 weeks later he goes in for surgery…

 

[freo1997]

Hope it’s not one of those where they decide no surgery required. Then 4 weeks later he goes in for surgery…

Probably will be the case. They will try get him up and running asap. If there’s more set backs in his rehab they’ll call it a year.