List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[stobes]

I didn't realise the Tigers had so many Used Car Salesman in there ranks.

And I'm sure McRae prefers players being brought in due to being able to bring in a new Father Son pick every year or so

 

[Dockeroo]

I can’t get around this F1 from north idea at all?

All we are doing is setting a high floor for the Warner trade in 2025, if it indeed ever happens.

Meanwhile Carlton want a 2 time AA the same age as Baker and won’t even entertain using pick 11!

 

[Purpletown]

Are all Richmond supporters tossers? Seems that way.

 

[Dockeroo]

Interesting that Collingwood coach McRae said today he prefers players not picks.
He tells his recruiting crew all the time! Apparently.

Almost Every coach in the afl would say that.

Ross Lyon famously ranted on footy classified about list manager loving picks.

“As a coach, I need mature bodies with 3 or 4 pre seasons not kids”

 

[s_wd6]

Lot less leaks around with no Colon Young clients. Honestly surprised the Switta thing hasn't been even spoken about by anyone else. For a club that is going to be very active this trade period we really have nothing coming out apart from the obvious re Bolton and Baker.

 

[CapitalA]

To be quite frank Baker could replace any player in your best 22 under 190cm outside of your starting 3 midfielders.

Forget about his height Baker is a deadset gun. We don’t want to lose him for pick 10-15.

You seem to have the attitude of many opposition fans but no you cannot get Baker easily from a state league club. He literally established himself as a best 22 player when we were at our peak and has not only never been dropped but also finished high in our B&F consistently. Take it from a fan who knows him well, if you get him and Bolton top 4 should be your benchmark for the next 3 years (with your list) maybe longer.

Yeah but he is uncontracted so you will get unders, probably a 2nd round pick like 27 or so....

 

[Dayts]

I wonder if he’s a backup plan if Bolton falls through. Saints 2nd with something coming back.

If we have a no dickheads policy, we can have one on the list.

I’m desperate to win so I’d take him in a flash.

Off load Brodie and bring in the package and enjoy the roller coaster of him an Bolton going 3/8 one week and 7/2 the next

 

[docko911]

Yeah but hebis uncontracted so you will get under, probably a 2nd round pick like 27 or so..

Well that won’t happen.

 

[freo84]

Well that won’t happen.

Based on what?

Players don't set their trade value. That's up to the clubs to work out. If he doesn't like what we offer.... stay there.

Out of contract smalls like him aren't worth a high end first round pick like 10.

At best he's worth a late first or an early second.

 

[docko911]

Based on what?

Players don't set their trade value. That's up to the clubs to work out. If he doesn't like what we offer.... stay there.

Out of contract smalls like him aren't worth a high end first round pick like 10.

At best he's worth a late first or an early second.

What did Collingwood pay for Schulz?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I can’t get around this F1 from north idea at all?

All we are doing is setting a high floor for the Warner trade in 2025, if it indeed ever happens.

Meanwhile Carlton want a 2 time AA the same age as Baker and won’t even entertain using pick 11!

I'd only do it to use in a trade with Richmond assuming they value it more than 9 - they can be patient and have enough picks this year

 

[s_wd6]

What did Collingwood pay for Schulz?

What they put on the table? Pick 17. For a contracted player

 

[freo84]

What did Collingwood pay for Schulz?

Completely irrelevant.

Schultz was contracted.

Baker is not.

 

[Dockeroo]

We've also seen multiple suggestions this year re Baker that Baker wants Richmond to be "adequately compensated" at the trade table, and if a team takes the piss in that regard he won't go there. Notwithstanding that there appear to be very one-sided definitions of adequate compensation, is there not a risk that Chad will make a similar demand?

When did this start becoming a trend in AFL I’d love to know?

Can’t recall many previously traded players having to give their blessing that the trade price agreed between both clubs was to their liking, before they agree to be traded.

It would be nice if Liam Baker just let the cobblers do the cobbling…

 

[Dockeroo]

I'd only do it to use in a trade with Richmond assuming they value it more than 9 - they can be patient and have enough picks this year

Yes but them what’s the point.
Just give Richmond 9 and let them trade it with north for an F1 themselves?

 

[s_wd6]

When did this start becoming a trend in AFL I’d love to know?

Can’t recall many previously traded players having to give their blessing that the trade price agreed between both clubs was to their liking, before they agree to be traded.

It would be nice if Liam Baker just let the cobblers do the cobbling…

It's all talk too. Like what happens when neither club wants to cough up anything. He's not going to re-sign with Richmond because they weren't addequately compensated.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We need a bingo card for here for the next month for each poster and to see how fast we can bait them into ticking as many off as possible:

• What did Schultz cost?
• Baker is gritty/courageous/leader
• PICK 2 FOR WELLER
• Bolton is a top 5 player in the AFL in a good team
• Freo will be premiership favourites getting Baker and Bolton, they have to pay overs for that
• Richmond have the power in a Baker trade because they have pick 1 PSD
• Baker is underrated outside Richmond

 

[Polo342]

Is there a chance we only offer 9 and 27 because this is touted a super draft? Why offer 9 and 16 if we dont need the salary cap space?? Maybe we dont if we are going after Baker as well?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Yes but them what’s the point.
Just give Richmond 9 and let them trade it with north for an F1 themselves?

Taking a service fee as a middle man? North hopefully desperately want 9 to make Houston work, Richmond hopefully really want a future 1st from North. No one gets what they want without us, get some extra value chucked in through the two different trades

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Is there a chance we only offer 9 and 27 because this is touted a super draft? Why offer 9 and 16 if we dont need the salary cap space?? Maybe we dont if we are going after Baker as well?

We can offer it and it will be rejected, nothing stopping us offering it though

 

[freo84]

I don't get why Collingwood trading badly means that we have to trade badly too.

 

[Polo342]

We can offer it and it will be rejected, nothing stopping us offering it though

You really think they want Bolton coming back?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You really think they want Bolton coming back?

It doesnt matter, the trade is probably basically done anyway. 9 and 27 is insulting given the contract and it will be two of the firsts, I really dont think that's debateable. The questions is which firsts and with what coming back.

 

[Wee Jessies]

Freo and GC should come together and trade out of their desirable picks.

GC trade 6, 12 and 26 to Freo for 10, F1 and 16.

Freo trade 9 to NM for F1 and 40.

Freo trade 26 and 27 to Brisbane for 17/18.

GC trade 10 for Rioli and late picks for points

Freo trade 6 and F2 for Bolton

Freo trade 17/18 for Baker and take 12 to the draft.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Also, we are looking at at 3 compo picks (Cumming, Perryman, Battle) in band 1 or 2, our 2nd round pick is going to be close to 35 on the night, possibly even further.