Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[kingkingston]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dr...e/news-story/be023112f1bf1fcc17d4189df93fa5ab Fox Footy has us taking Jagga Smith as well

 

[Mondyboy]

The club needs to have a conversation with Sam Durdin and somehow retract the train on offer

You can only imagine how poor DGB is if Durdin is still a chance.

I think we definitely take McMahon (as we should have last year-though I do love Cooper). And if DGB is not up to it, I think they can keep that spot empty. Matt Carroll probably gets offered a VFL gig.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

??? Time is going to make some people look pretty silly

Let's hope so !!

 

[V_23]

Is Smith quick? Worried our midfield is going to continue to be slow.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Am I the only one who isn't enthused by the prospect of O'Sullivan? He just doesn't really seem to have any x-factor IMO.

Feel like the upside with Smith and Draper is far higher.

Admittedly have only seen some basic highlights so could very well be getting this wrong... What am I missing here?

Well, the Tigers have him in the mix for pick 1. Kangaroo are likely to take him at 2, and we would take him at 3 if he was still there.

So the answer is- many on here have picked holes in his game. The recruiters on the other hand......... .........

So it depends if you put more credence on the opinions of big footy posters or professional recruiters.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Go watch the highlights of him taking huge overhead marks & slotting every type of goal u would like to see.
FOS is likely to make any debate about what pick to take him seem silly in a few years.

Go watch the Eastern Rangers v Oakleigh Coats game during the year. FOS played midfield the entire game. Less game time overall than Jagga but compare the pair.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Is Smith quick? Worried our midfield is going to continue to be slow.

Yes and slippery.

 

[Moon]

Which is the quickest Bull who can break free and deliver the ball well ... and can kick a Goal?

That's our Man!

*Did I mention not injury prone?

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Wonder who will present the jumper to who we select on draft night

 

[TerryWallet]

Of the 4 considerations for our Pick 3 i am secretly hoping it will be in order:

1. Lalor
2. Draper
3. FOS/Smith

I think Lalor is a level above as a prospect.
Draper as the second best overall and best for us in short and long term.
FOS as the dual position with huge upside.
Smith will help equally as Draper in short term and longterm. I just rate him a touch less offensive and a bit more defensive than Draper.

I respect Cal's track record though, and it seems as though Lalor is gone. It seems like we will take FOS if he is there. If he's not it looks like Jagga. With Sid still a chance though.

Money would have to be with Jagga now though.

Go Jagga you beauty.

 

[GoBlues!]

Okay assuming its Smith at #3, can we run a poll on which Stones song we should play when he gets presented a Carlton jumper.

I like this one - especially at 1.14 when Keith takes care of an over enthusiastic spectator....

 

[BlueNath]

Is Smith quick? Worried our midfield is going to continue to be slow.

Assuming we end up with Smith, I think he plays from round 1. He is not explosive, but has elite evasiveness. In the draftpool, against his peers, Ive heard it explained he would win the ball from stoppage 60 times out of 100. He is that good! So while he has some knocks on his game, I think he can push Walsh out and have him play off the backline again, storming through the middle like he did in 2023. Walsh on the outside is when he is at his best. That is my thinking for addressing "speed"... get Jagga to get it to Cerra and Walsh bursting on the outside

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Wonder who will present the jumper to who we select on draft night

The dominator to present 7 to Draper or smith

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Of the 4 considerations for our Pick 3 i am secretly hoping it will be in order:

1. Lalor
2. Draper
3. FOS/Smith

I think Lalor is a level above as a prospect.
Draper as the second best overall and best for us in short and long term.
FOS as the dual position with huge upside.
Smith will help equally as Draper in short term and longterm. I just rate him a touch less offensive and a bit more defensive than Draper.

I respect Cal's track record though, and it seems as though Lalor is gone. It seems like we will take FOS if he is there. If he's not it looks like Jagga. With Sid still a chance though.

Money would have to be with Jagga now though.

Go Jagga you beauty.

...and we'll be surprised he was still available at Pick #3

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Assuming we end up with Smith, I think he plays from round 1. He is not explosive, but has elite evasiveness. In the draftpool, against his peers, Ive heard it explained he would win the ball from stoppage 60 times out of 100. He is that good! So while he has some knocks on his game, I think he can push Walsh out and have him play off the backline again, storming through the middle like he did in 2023. Walsh on the outside is when he is at his best. That is my thinking for addressing "speed"... get Jagga to get it to Cerra and Walsh bursting on the outside

Correct take. Jagga is the best / quickest I’ve seen at pouncing on a loose ball at a contest. We have zero dynamism around the contest, particularly if the ball doesn’t bounce our way. I think people have been overstating the burst forward from stoppage argument. Jagga can do that but he can do so much more as well.

 

[BlueNath]

Wonder who will present the jumper to who we select on draft night

Apparently we have made a call to Mick Jaggaer to see if he can do it. Im not sure why an old rock star is being considered though?

 

[Bic]

FOS is our no.1 still, as mentioned a lot earlier in the thread, doesn't look like he makes it to 3.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

I haven't changed my view on the players in our target range.

1. Langford, strong and lateral movement. Hardly ever gets caught with the ball. Can take a contested mark, his left foot is an absolute weapon. Will have the capacity to play HB and HF. I am not worried about his 20m speed testing.

2. FOS, similar skillset to Langford with a bit more straight line speed, does not have the same level of football IQ or willingness to work of the ball as Langford.

3. Jagga, very agile, will be a great high possession link up player. High IQ and work rate. Kicking lacks penetration, often kicks of the inside of his foot. Just not sold as a top 3 player. I have him at ranked 5-6.

4. Sid, great highlights reel, love his burst of pace and mix of outside/ inside. With the excess pace you sacrifice efficiency. So whilst he is a POD and gives us additional speed, we do not get kicking efficiency POD that we need. I am also concerned about his durability. I have him ranked 7-8.

Draper, just as agile as Smith, arguably even more so...

Got any stats on his so called kicking inefficiency or shooting from the hip?

p.s. tigers won three flags getting the ball into F50 as fast as they humanly could.... Danger won a Brownlow doing the same thing....

 

[marcmurphy3]

FOS is our no.1 still, as mentioned a lot earlier in the thread, doesn't look like he makes it to 3.

ITKs suggesting its Jagga.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Pretty confident its Smith now. Cal, several ITKs , Fox, heraldsun, the age. Everyone has us taking Smith.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

FOS is our no.1 still, as mentioned a lot earlier in the thread, doesn't look like he makes it to 3.

Who are u hearing is next in line bic?

 

[Blue__Balls]

Is Smith quick? Worried our midfield is going to continue to be slow.

He's slick, and he operates half a second ahead of everyone else on the field. So while not express by way of top speed or raw acceleration, he's always on the move and when he gets the ball he generally already knows what he's gonna be doing with it.

But also, he's not slow, by any stretch of the imagination.

Seriously though, just check out some Youtube highlights of the top few. You'll find videos of 5-10 mins that give you a pretty good idea of what we'd be expecting to get from Smith, Draper, FOS or, at a stretch, Langford.

Cliff notes:
Smith - agile, instinctive midfielder who racks it up and uses it well. Light frame the question mark.
Draper - burst midfielder with great acceleration, top speed and ball handling. Good defensive game. Disposal both by hand and foot a little iffy at times (for a top mid, he's not an outright poor user), and recent back injury which is hard to assess from the cheap seats.
FOS - hybrid mid/fwd with a wicked side step, sticky hands and quality disposal. Lower disposal numbers than other options and had an injury-interrupted year which prevented him from really getting going. Highly regarded coming into the year based on 2023 bottom age form.
Langford - big bodied midfielder who could impact up forward or down back as well. Great mark, beautiful left foot, operates well in traffic, good endurance runner. Top speed the worst of this bunch.

I don't think any of them make us slower. Langford is probably net neutral, the other three make us faster in different ways.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Is Smith quick? Worried our midfield is going to continue to be slow.

He's quick. Not super fast but quicker then all our current mids except probably Walsh.

 

[TENACIOUS]

The suggestion is Rookie Draft.

The 4 players invited to train-on are McMahon, Carroll, Durdin and DGB

He apparently didn’t nominate for the draft, so his only option is train on player.

 

[juzza316]

I just hope the player we didn't move up the draft order for was FOS then we don't get him