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He will never be a great tap ruckman that's true.
But Meek could still be a decent AFL ruck if he can be competitive in the ruck and good around the ground with his endurance and skills (bit like Ceglar was in his prime).
It's a puzzle to me why he struggles in the ruck, he's an absolutely massive unit.
Finally a footy show worth watching, wonder what time they will be on.
And continue to look for different ways to cook sausages.
Only just turned 21 and coming off an interesting season, yes he got the medal but not his best game.
Wasn’t that long ago Hardwick played like a senior player from a young age - but please colour yourself
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Agreed. I saw Bucks and was like hmmm interesting, is it purely media related or could there be more to it? I think it would be terrific to see him as right hand man next to Sam.
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Is that Will McCabe after being told he's playing FB all year?
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Where the * is threesixpio ?
A current #36 and a former #36 both go down on the same day.
How did this happen on your watch?
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Ruckman resting in backline to defend a lead is nothing new. Not kpd though
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Strange comment from Hale given we drafted a couple of likely ones. We all know they are not this season ready
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Reminds me of Stratton the way he goes about his football. Interested to see how he goes against the Bulldogs. I feel like we’ll let him cook at Box Hill first half of the year.
The forgotten man is an apt description, he may be borderline underrated I feel. Always seems to pop up at keys moments.
I’ve seen it mentioned here before but I’m really starting to subscribe to it - he’s a great role player, the kind that wins you flags.
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Day nd Moore the only ones from the 10-12 locks and the others from the next 20 ‘possibles’ not ideal but should shorten the length of selection meetings a bit
Day and Moore temporary outs
Main highlight that stood out for me from Watto was him decelerating OUT of traffic to set up an easier kick. I genuinely don't think people who don't actively play sport acknowledge how unreal that is as a skill.
HMo, Mass and HH all looking for for the seniors this season- Harry to get to 100 games I reckon!
HMo, Mass and HH all looking for for the seniors this season- Harry to get to 100 games I reckon!
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Reckon he was there in his media capacity for SEN breakfast. Was there alongside David King
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As I said we likely need more than one KPD. I'm sure we're hoping McCabe can be that taller defender in the next few seasons
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Hope he gets to 100 games this season. Great story of a guy taken late in a draft with no real athletic weapons or elite tricks, but pure effort, dedication and consistency.
Isn’t he up around 256cm now?
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Really happy with this.
We desperately need a plan B exiting defence when under the pump. When teams clamp down on Sicily and he can't make the hail Mary 60m zone piercing kick we can get easily hemmed in.
Mass and Amon at half back brings us a lot of elite options out of D50.
My thoughts on the best performers of the intra club
Hustwaite - was fantastic all game, most of it against Newcombe and Worpel, was on gold team to begin and was benifitting from Reeves tap dominance, but later played in the 2nds group and still was a presence in the middle
Hardwick - had a big first half setting up goals and finished with 2-3 himself, his kicking is the best in the team which will benefit us at either end of the ground
Impey - provided a lot of good run and carry when he was out there, impact per poss
Worpel - played well early, generally liked how he went in the midfield, seems to be continuing good form from last season
Morrison - provided an outlet and hit targets, in good form
Reeves - dominant ruck, he has filled out and is hard to stop, his hit outs to adv a weapon
Ramsden - is filling out and very athletic, was all over the ground, good in the ruck, in fact the only 1 to really challenge Reeves, then had a big 3rd quarter playing in the 2nds/Box Hill team/set up kicking 3 goals against the senior team
C.MacDonald - had a big game floating between hbf and hff, his forward work is improving and he looks to be ready to take that next step in development
Chol - contested marking, good on a lead, looks to be a focal point, can play well in ruck also, generally good shot at goal too, showing signs of good effort
Ginnivan - had a burst of good form in the 2nd half setting up a couple and kicking a couple
Ryan - took a few intercept marks, had good positioning defensively, used the ball well, he was impressive
Watson - his acceleration and decelleration reminds me of Puopolo, good eye for goal, exciting talent
The rest I thought played average games with a handful playing below average
I thought 3 of our best players didn't perform at their best in Sicily, Newcombe and Lewis, but it is a scratch match and they have nothing to prove, so not a big issue...
The only negative at the moment is our growing injury list
Day - foot - month or so?
Moore - glandular fever - month or so?
S.Mitchell - Jaw - ?
McCabe - general soreness - ?
Blanck - Knee - season
Tucker - ?
JOS - ?
Wingard - Achilles - month or so?
Dear - ?
CJ - Hammy - 2 months
B.MacDonald - ?
Hustwaite - was fantastic all game, most of it against Newcombe and Worpel, was on gold team to begin and was benifitting from Reeves tap dominance, but later played in the 2nds group and still was a presence in the middle
Hardwick - had a big first half setting up goals and finished with 2-3 himself, his kicking is the best in the team which will benefit us at either end of the ground
Impey - provided a lot of good run and carry when he was out there, impact per poss
Worpel - played well early, generally liked how he went in the midfield, seems to be continuing good form from last season
Morrison - provided an outlet and hit targets, in good form
Reeves - dominant ruck, he has filled out and is hard to stop, his hit outs to adv a weapon
Ramsden - is filling out and very athletic, was all over the ground, good in the ruck, in fact the only 1 to really challenge Reeves, then had a big 3rd quarter playing in the 2nds/Box Hill team/set up kicking 3 goals against the senior team
C.MacDonald - had a big game floating between hbf and hff, his forward work is improving and he looks to be ready to take that next step in development
Chol - contested marking, good on a lead, looks to be a focal point, can play well in ruck also, generally good shot at goal too, showing signs of good effort
Ginnivan - had a burst of good form in the 2nd half setting up a couple and kicking a couple
Ryan - took a few intercept marks, had good positioning defensively, used the ball well, he was impressive
Watson - his acceleration and decelleration reminds me of Puopolo, good eye for goal, exciting talent
The rest I thought played average games with a handful playing below average
I thought 3 of our best players didn't perform at their best in Sicily, Newcombe and Lewis, but it is a scratch match and they have nothing to prove, so not a big issue...
The only negative at the moment is our growing injury list
Day - foot - month or so?
Moore - glandular fever - month or so?
S.Mitchell - Jaw - ?
McCabe - general soreness - ?
Blanck - Knee - season
Tucker - ?
JOS - ?
Wingard - Achilles - month or so?
Dear - ?
CJ - Hammy - 2 months
B.MacDonald - ?
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Its funny how this time last year all of the discussion/hysteria with Hawthorn was about the midfield not being able to perform with the loss of O'Meara and Mitchell. Its amazing how quickly that has turned around, zero mention of it now.
I like James Blanck as a player, see his potential, but he is very Stephen Gilham to us, a good role player, his loss is disappointing but he has only played 24 games, he is not SOS. The most important and influential player in our backline I believe is Sicily, we lose Sic and we lose games. The loss of Blanck gives us the chance to see the potential of Serong and DGB and maybe see what Phillips can bring. I would really be interested to see how Ramsden would go in the back line - could be our Harris Andrews - very similar physical attributes.
Its a shame to lose CJ but it will mean we probably get to see D'Ambrosio on a wing with allegedly the best kick in the team against his old club with a big point to prove so can't wait to see that.
It is so awesome to see us with an exciting forward line again, it has felt so un Hawthorn like the last couple of years. My God if you compare with our forward line we will go in to round 1 this year to round 1 last year, what a transformation. I also don't think it is going to take that long for them to gel, it seems like the chemistry is already building.
I like James Blanck as a player, see his potential, but he is very Stephen Gilham to us, a good role player, his loss is disappointing but he has only played 24 games, he is not SOS. The most important and influential player in our backline I believe is Sicily, we lose Sic and we lose games. The loss of Blanck gives us the chance to see the potential of Serong and DGB and maybe see what Phillips can bring. I would really be interested to see how Ramsden would go in the back line - could be our Harris Andrews - very similar physical attributes.
Its a shame to lose CJ but it will mean we probably get to see D'Ambrosio on a wing with allegedly the best kick in the team against his old club with a big point to prove so can't wait to see that.
It is so awesome to see us with an exciting forward line again, it has felt so un Hawthorn like the last couple of years. My God if you compare with our forward line we will go in to round 1 this year to round 1 last year, what a transformation. I also don't think it is going to take that long for them to gel, it seems like the chemistry is already building.
Thanks to all those that have provided a training report much appreciated and as always look forward to reading them all 
. Apologise for not posting sooner had a busy arvo/evening but walked away with the following. Yesterday’s session was interesting that’s for sure. Some disappointment ……. but far out weighed by the positives. You gotta train the way you want to play. The boys went in hard yesterday with the tackling, smothers, Blanck and Lewis going at each other on the ground right in front of me! Injuries will happen as there is competition for spots so if a wingman, mid, small forward etc goes down you replace them with another soldier and move on that’s the Hawthorn way and confident that our depth is starting to look better these days.
Went with my son. He likes to sit up high to get a view of the whole ground. I like being close to the action walking around at ground level. Within a short time could see how much better we are having the likes of Dimma and the Wiz in the forward line with a couple of quick goals. Dimma leads strongly, is tough, smart, good above his head and a beautiful kick. Has all the trademarks of a forward. The Wiz just makes people look silly in the way he reads the play so much earlier than anyone else. That first goal ……. the two backs were goal side running back towards goal as was the Wiz. But the Wiz just quickly stopped (while the backs were still running back thinking the ball was going over his head I guess) sprung up high on the spot and took an easy mark while Amon and the other back just looked at each other
. Gunston is rejuvenated since coming back home he presented well for most of the day adds class and is ready to play. Re Chol …… if I hear another GC or Tigers supporter say that he’s lazy I will spew up all over them. Hits packs, his tackling, chasing, smothers for a man his size is impressive. In one piece of play Weddle went on one of his runs and Chol chased him down and tackled him. Please show me another 200+cm player that can do this? Never seen one of the King brothers do that!
CJ did look good early running around in the middle of the ground but so did Harry ….. with Ward, Amon, D'Ambrosio wings are hopefully covered.
At half time thought I’d better go back to say g’day to my son. As I got there he was surrounded by Kingie, Bucks and a couple of others who parked themselves right next to him. Son and I had a great time listening to these guys with some small chat over the last 3 quarters
Kingie loves the Wiz. During some of his possessions “he’s a star”, “you cant tackle him” while chuckling. Got excited every time he was near the ball. He asked Bucks how many goals will he kick in his first year 20, 30, 40? They then tried remembering other smalls in their first year and they even checked what he was paying for 40 goals
. The consensus was around 30. The thing with the Wiz if he only touches it 10 times …… he will still kick and/or set up 2-4 goals. He will be a high impact player as he has some very special traits that you can’t teach. Kid will be a game changer
. A couple of players they also talked up was HH, Chol and Kingie asked me who’s that blonde kid he looks alright …… was Bodie 
. We were both pissed off when Dimma took a big pack mark in front of goals but it wasn’t paid. Then in the last quarter Sammy walked up and parked himself next to Bucks. Kingie asked him about the Wiz for round 1. Sammy didn’t say yes or no but, “he’s making it hard not to get picked”. Reckon he’s in for rd 1 as you can’t ignore the X factor he brings. Sammy also mentioned that they are trying to develop Frenchie and HH to have an inside/outside game where they can play through the middle or half back for versatility. Pointed out the club are also happy with Chol’s athleticism so it looks like the club are encouraging him to play to his strengths.
Some other players that stood out was Ramma. His 3 goals in the 3rd quarter was impressive and he looks bigger which is making a difference when using his body and holding his ground. He’s a very good mover for his size and has a tank. At one stage the forward line of Lewis/Chol/Ramma looked tall but still balanced as they all move pretty well for their size and had good smalls at their feet. Macca looked good at times and Frenchie was always busy. Newk, Worps, Nash our core unit of grunt work just do what they always do very well. HH showing great signs has amazing peripheral vision. He regularly finds ball in congestion and gets a hand ball away while getting tackled hitting team mates without looking at them! Impey showing a lot of leadership/maturity from giving CJ time/support and a big hug after his injury and then when he sat on the bench from half time he was encouraging and constantly talking to teammates ….. great leadership Jars
. Additions of Chol, Gunners, Wiz, Ginnivan with Lewis, Bruest, Moore, Wingard and Dimma ……. gotta feeling we will have an exciting forward line this season that will kick bigger scores. Go Hawks!
. Apologise for not posting sooner had a busy arvo/evening but walked away with the following. Yesterday’s session was interesting that’s for sure. Some disappointment ……. but far out weighed by the positives. You gotta train the way you want to play. The boys went in hard yesterday with the tackling, smothers, Blanck and Lewis going at each other on the ground right in front of me! Injuries will happen as there is competition for spots so if a wingman, mid, small forward etc goes down you replace them with another soldier and move on that’s the Hawthorn way and confident that our depth is starting to look better these days.Went with my son. He likes to sit up high to get a view of the whole ground. I like being close to the action walking around at ground level. Within a short time could see how much better we are having the likes of Dimma and the Wiz in the forward line with a couple of quick goals. Dimma leads strongly, is tough, smart, good above his head and a beautiful kick. Has all the trademarks of a forward. The Wiz just makes people look silly in the way he reads the play so much earlier than anyone else. That first goal ……. the two backs were goal side running back towards goal as was the Wiz. But the Wiz just quickly stopped (while the backs were still running back thinking the ball was going over his head I guess) sprung up high on the spot and took an easy mark while Amon and the other back just looked at each other
. Gunston is rejuvenated since coming back home he presented well for most of the day adds class and is ready to play. Re Chol …… if I hear another GC or Tigers supporter say that he’s lazy I will spew up all over them. Hits packs, his tackling, chasing, smothers for a man his size is impressive. In one piece of play Weddle went on one of his runs and Chol chased him down and tackled him. Please show me another 200+cm player that can do this? Never seen one of the King brothers do that!CJ did look good early running around in the middle of the ground but so did Harry ….. with Ward, Amon, D'Ambrosio wings are hopefully covered.
At half time thought I’d better go back to say g’day to my son. As I got there he was surrounded by Kingie, Bucks and a couple of others who parked themselves right next to him. Son and I had a great time listening to these guys with some small chat over the last 3 quarters
Kingie loves the Wiz. During some of his possessions “he’s a star”, “you cant tackle him” while chuckling. Got excited every time he was near the ball. He asked Bucks how many goals will he kick in his first year 20, 30, 40? They then tried remembering other smalls in their first year and they even checked what he was paying for 40 goals
. The consensus was around 30. The thing with the Wiz if he only touches it 10 times …… he will still kick and/or set up 2-4 goals. He will be a high impact player as he has some very special traits that you can’t teach. Kid will be a game changer. A couple of players they also talked up was HH, Chol and Kingie asked me who’s that blonde kid he looks alright …… was Bodie . We were both pissed off when Dimma took a big pack mark in front of goals but it wasn’t paid. Then in the last quarter Sammy walked up and parked himself next to Bucks. Kingie asked him about the Wiz for round 1. Sammy didn’t say yes or no but, “he’s making it hard not to get picked”. Reckon he’s in for rd 1 as you can’t ignore the X factor he brings. Sammy also mentioned that they are trying to develop Frenchie and HH to have an inside/outside game where they can play through the middle or half back for versatility. Pointed out the club are also happy with Chol’s athleticism so it looks like the club are encouraging him to play to his strengths.Some other players that stood out was Ramma. His 3 goals in the 3rd quarter was impressive and he looks bigger which is making a difference when using his body and holding his ground. He’s a very good mover for his size and has a tank. At one stage the forward line of Lewis/Chol/Ramma looked tall but still balanced as they all move pretty well for their size and had good smalls at their feet. Macca looked good at times and Frenchie was always busy. Newk, Worps, Nash our core unit of grunt work just do what they always do very well. HH showing great signs has amazing peripheral vision. He regularly finds ball in congestion and gets a hand ball away while getting tackled hitting team mates without looking at them! Impey showing a lot of leadership/maturity from giving CJ time/support and a big hug after his injury and then when he sat on the bench from half time he was encouraging and constantly talking to teammates ….. great leadership Jars
. Additions of Chol, Gunners, Wiz, Ginnivan with Lewis, Bruest, Moore, Wingard and Dimma ……. gotta feeling we will have an exciting forward line this season that will kick bigger scores. Go Hawks!
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